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Old May 17th 06, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Diesel actually has a substantial advande in fuel economy. The Tielert
diesel claims to have a BSFC of 0.33lb/HP-hr, far better than the
gasoline engines that're usually at 0.40-0.45 range. If you think this
is not significant, consider that diesel weighs more per gallon than
avgas, and we buy fuel in volume, not weight. So a 25% improvement of
BSFC by going diesel will actually result in 28% of saving in the
volume (gallon) of fuel burn. If the cost of diesel per gallons is 20%
lower than avgas, the total fuel cost saving is going to be about 34%
in dollar amount. That's very significant over the life time of an
engine.


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What is going to happen to fuel costs? Right now Jet A is $.87/gal
cheaper at my local FBO. Will this spread increase or decrease?

Will a FADEC diesel further reduce the fuel costs by keeping everything
optimal?


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Old May 17th 06, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I thought the fuel for these aviation diesel engine
was Jet A. Is the data below for Jet A or for
diesel fuel?

How does Jet A compare to gasoline?

Ronnie

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Diesel actually has a substantial advande in fuel economy. The Tielert
diesel claims to have a BSFC of 0.33lb/HP-hr, far better than the
gasoline engines that're usually at 0.40-0.45 range. If you think this
is not significant, consider that diesel weighs more per gallon than
avgas, and we buy fuel in volume, not weight. So a 25% improvement of
BSFC by going diesel will actually result in 28% of saving in the
volume (gallon) of fuel burn. If the cost of diesel per gallons is 20%
lower than avgas, the total fuel cost saving is going to be about 34%
in dollar amount. That's very significant over the life time of an
engine.


wrote:

What is going to happen to fuel costs? Right now Jet A is $.87/gal
cheaper at my local FBO. Will this spread increase or decrease?

Will a FADEC diesel further reduce the fuel costs by keeping everything
optimal?





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Old May 17th 06, 09:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I was using the term diesel fuel in a generic sense. Yes the math is
based on Jet A because it's 6.84lb/gal compared with 6lb/gal of avgas.

Ronnie wrote:
I thought the fuel for these aviation diesel engine
was Jet A. Is the data below for Jet A or for
diesel fuel?

How does Jet A compare to gasoline?


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Old May 29th 06, 04:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Ronnie" writes:

I thought the fuel for these aviation diesel engine
was Jet A. Is the data below for Jet A or for
diesel fuel?


How does Jet A compare to gasoline?



Jet A == kerosene.

Gasoline is 6.25 lbs/gallon {at ~70F}
Kero is 6.84 lbs/gallon...

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Old May 18th 06, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Jet A is more expensive out our local pumps than 100LL but about 80cents.
BT

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Diesel actually has a substantial advande in fuel economy. The Tielert
diesel claims to have a BSFC of 0.33lb/HP-hr, far better than the
gasoline engines that're usually at 0.40-0.45 range. If you think this
is not significant, consider that diesel weighs more per gallon than
avgas, and we buy fuel in volume, not weight. So a 25% improvement of
BSFC by going diesel will actually result in 28% of saving in the
volume (gallon) of fuel burn. If the cost of diesel per gallons is 20%
lower than avgas, the total fuel cost saving is going to be about 34%
in dollar amount. That's very significant over the life time of an
engine.


wrote:

What is going to happen to fuel costs? Right now Jet A is $.87/gal
cheaper at my local FBO. Will this spread increase or decrease?

Will a FADEC diesel further reduce the fuel costs by keeping everything
optimal?




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Old May 18th 06, 02:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:42:17 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

Jet A is more expensive out our local pumps than 100LL but about 80cents.
BT


How much is home heating oil?

Don
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Old May 18th 06, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:JpPag.1293$rS6.170@fed1read11...
Jet A is more expensive out our local pumps than 100LL but about 80cents.
BT

Fairly common in areas where the "jet-setters" congregate, like Jackson
Hole, Squaw Valley, Aspen...


 




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