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Bob
Some excellent replies here and it sounds like some, by pilots who have experienced various doors opening, without disastrous result. I've had a number of doors come open on quite a variety of aircraft (does that say something about how really fragile they are?) and not much more than a fright to either me, or the PAX. As part of my own training regimine, I cause a door to open for many of the flights I give with students to show them the non-existent danger or proper procedures to close said door again. Have had baggage doors pop open on several aircraft and had to land to close them again. No big deal but certainly annoying. Open doors on some aricraft that disrupted the airflow, like the Pipers, and Beechcraft with the cabin doors that curved up on the fuselage. It is more of a fright factor than anything. Vertical cabin doors are nearly impossible to open more than a handspan in flight with airflow pushing them shut.... Cabin windows, like the emergency exit on Barons, cause nothing more than a loud roar and scare crap out of whoever is sitting there....especially over the Sierras at night out of Tahoeggg I participated in an accident investigation years ago on a Beech Queen Air A65/80 that crashed after a baggage door opened in flight shortly after takeoff at ABQ. It turned out the baggage was spilling out of the compartment into the left propellor causing an engine failure. It was not an aircraft design problem causing the crash, but one of pilot error. I got involved simply because the aircraft that crashed was one digit away from the one I was flying at the time and we used it to attempt duplication of the crash scenario to see if it was aircraft design or pilot error. Bottom line is, I don't think an unexpected door opening on any aircraft is cause for crash or panic. Structural integrity may be at risk in some high speed exotic aircraft, but I don't know of any that are that critically affected aerodynamically. Same can be said of instrument failure and a pilot doing the panic routine just because they didn't have the airspeed, or altimeter, or compass, or ???? If you are still concerned, go up in the aircraft you normally fly with an instructor or experienced pilot, and crack a door to see what it does. If nothing else it will prove how difficult it is to open the door enough to cause danger. I remember the time whan I tried to make a parachute jump from the backseat of a Piper TriPacer back in the early 60's and ......well thats a story for another time after we have a San Pablo.....ggg Ol Shy & Bashful |
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![]() "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in message oups.com... Bob I participated in an accident investigation years ago on a Beech Queen Air A65/80 that crashed after a baggage door opened in flight shortly after takeoff at ABQ. It turned out the baggage was spilling out of the compartment into the left propellor causing an engine failure. It was not an aircraft design problem causing the crash, but one of pilot error. I got involved simply because the aircraft that crashed was one digit away from the one I was flying at the time and we used it to attempt duplication of the crash scenario to see if it was aircraft design or pilot error. I believe Ben Abruzzo the ballonist also died that way in ABQ in a Cessna 421. He was headed out on a ski trip with a plane load of passengers. The nose baggage door popped open and skis began to head for the propeller. I think someone said he intended to shut down the left engine but somehow wound up shutting them both down. Almost made it back to the runway but hit a raised road just short and burst into flames. I found this googling: February 11, 1985: Ben Abruzzo, a crew member on the Double Eagle II, the first balloon to cross the Atlantic Ocean nonstop, was killed along with several passengers when his twin-engine plane crashed shortly after taking off from the Albuquerque, New Mexico airport. An investigation showed that the probable cause of the crash was an external luggage compartment door which had been left open. The best idea from aircraft data was that he had pulled back on the gas of the closest prop to the door and then inadvertently feathered the wrong prop, thus rendering both engines inoperative. Before his death, Abruzzo was also a member of the first team to fly a balloon nonstop across the Pacific Ocean. |
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