Flying through Canadian airspace

Great view of Niagara Falls, I should add. Bring your camera.
(although we were routed around the Detroit area to the North, so you
may not fly right over it)

Great view of Niagara Falls, I should add. Bring your camera.
(although we were routed around the Detroit area to the North, so you
may not fly right over it)

What good is a flight over Niagara Falls, if you can't fly over it?

(We're planning on flying that way this summer, VFR.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Great view of Niagara Falls, I should add. Bring your camera.
(although we were routed around the Detroit area to the North, so you
may not fly right over it)

What good is a flight over Niagara Falls, if you can't fly over it?

(We're planning on flying that way this summer, VFR.)

It appears that ATC might be flexible when traffic is light. I flew out of
Buffalo on United on the first flight out in the morning, and the pilot did
a 360 over the falls before continuing to Chicago.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Great view of Niagara Falls, I should add. Bring your camera.
(although we were routed around the Detroit area to the North, so you
may not fly right over it)


What good is a flight over Niagara Falls, if you can't fly over it?

(We're planning on flying that way this summer, VFR.)

There's some stuff in the Airport/Facilities book about frequencies, directions
and altitudes to use when flying over the falls.

In a previous article, Dave Butler said:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Great view of Niagara Falls, I should add. Bring your camera.
(although we were routed around the Detroit area to the North, so you
may not fly right over it)
What good is a flight over Niagara Falls, if you can't fly over it?

(We're planning on flying that way this summer, VFR.)

There's some stuff in the Airport/Facilities book about frequencies, directions
and altitudes to use when flying over the falls.

That's true, and that's good for VFR traffic. But I've seen airliners at
higher altitudes, presumably on an IFR clearance, doing a lap or two above
the falls at a much higher altitude.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Recursion: n., see Recursion.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote

That's true, and that's good for VFR traffic. But I've seen airliners at
higher altitudes, presumably on an IFR clearance, doing a lap or two above
the falls at a much higher altitude.

Wow, and double WoW! Never before, have I heard of an airliner taking the
time to do some sightseeing!

I wonder how much that cost the company? g
--
Jim in NC

On 05/22/06 13:22, Morgans wrote:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote

That's true, and that's good for VFR traffic. But I've seen airliners at
higher altitudes, presumably on an IFR clearance, doing a lap or two above
the falls at a much higher altitude.

Wow, and double WoW! Never before, have I heard of an airliner taking the
time to do some sightseeing!

I wonder how much that cost the company? g

I think it was in Rod Machado's book: The instrument pilot's survival
manual, where he wrote about an exchange between ATC and an airliner.
ATC asked the flight for a turn in the holding pattern. The airline
captain complained that each turn cost the airline $500. The controller
said: Okay then, give me $1000 worth of turns ;-)



--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

In article ,
Morgans wrote:

"Paul Tomblin" wrote

That's true, and that's good for VFR traffic. But I've seen airliners at
higher altitudes, presumably on an IFR clearance, doing a lap or two above
the falls at a much higher altitude.

Wow, and double WoW! Never before, have I heard of an airliner taking the
time to do some sightseeing!

I haven't seen them do laps, but very often departures out of
SFO (San Francisco) and OAK (Oakland) fly the Bay Tour before proceeding
on course. They fly over the bay and out the gate at around 3000ft.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

Wow, and double WoW! Never before, have I heard of an airliner taking the
time to do some sightseeing!


Years ago, I was coming back to Minnesota from the L.A. area in
California, flying on Northwest. The pilot came on the PA and said that
since it was such a clear morning, they got permission to divert
slightly so we could see the Grand Canyon. We didn't do any 360's, but
they did slow down and bank right and left so everyone could get a
look. This was also the same flight that the pilot would keep us up to
date with the Vikings (football) score....
Don't know if that would occur now days or not....

Randy

(We're planning on flying that way this summer, VFR.)

Let me know when you are coming my way.