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Old May 23rd 06, 05:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"AJ" wrote in message
ps.com...
Interesting -- the registration page is rejecting my email address.


Check Google. The web site generates its traffic by posting phoney "I found
a good forum" messages to various places. Also, the web site rejects
gmail.com addresses (and possibly other free email sites).

My bet: it's just an email harvesting site. It may even reject all
addresses, and just save them off to a spam database.

I recommend everyone stay away.


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Old May 23rd 06, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 22 May 2006 21:33:18 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
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The web site generates its traffic by posting phoney "I found
a good forum" messages to various places.


More Usenet spam brought to you through the irresponsible policies of
Google Groups.

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Old May 23rd 06, 06:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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More Usenet spam brought to you through the irresponsible policies of
Google Groups.


Yup. Used to be, Google was "the company you could trust". Now they are
"not quite as bad as Yahoo!".


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Old May 23rd 06, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:

More Usenet spam brought to you through the irresponsible policies of
Google Groups.


I'm unclear on how google could be responsible for this post. What
would stop this kind of post even if google didn't exist?

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Old May 23rd 06, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Chris W" wrote in message
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More Usenet spam brought to you through the irresponsible policies of
Google Groups.


I'm unclear on how google could be responsible for this post. What would
stop this kind of post even if google didn't exist?


Granted, it wouldn't *stop* spam. However, all reputable ISPs will suspend
Usenet access, if not cancel the account entirely, for posting spam.
Google, on the other hand, allows free access and does absolutely nothing
with respect to enforcing their own use policies, never mind the usual
accepted practices for Usenet.

At least if I send a complaint to an ISP, I'll get a form letter telling me
that they'll look into it and take action if the user's action was in
violation of their terms of service. Google basically says "tough luck".
In that respect, they encourage spammers to use their service for posting
Usenet spam.

Pete


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Old May 23rd 06, 09:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Granted, it wouldn't *stop* spam. However, all reputable ISPs will
suspend Usenet access, if not cancel the account entirely, for posting
spam.


This is part of what I do for a living. Let me tell you....I've gotten
about 8,000 mails to the abuse address this month alone, and I have about
three hours a week to address them. The higher-ups just don't see a need
for full-time abuse management. Not only that, but about half of that IS
spam, but unlike other accounts, abuse admins can't filter spam or they'll
also filter complaints about spam.

So if one person complains about something somebody posted on the internet,
a policy administrator MIGHT actually see it and then triage it.
"That dude called me a jew" gets bit-bucketed with Scientology threats and
other minor issues and addressed IF I have time; generally, though, I have
bigger fish to fry such as the phishing scammers out of eastern europe,
pedophilia sites (NAILED an entire ring with the help of the FBI in March),
denial of service attacks, copyright infringement, etc. I get subpoenas
from Homeland Security, the FBI and, most recently, Al Jazeera. (!!)
Admins TRY to get it all, but because the friggin' gubmint confounds every
attempt to control spam (it's freedom of speech, you see, and people "want"
spam...just ask the spammers. And ignore the theft of services...)


-c


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Old May 24th 06, 05:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"gatt" wrote in
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Granted, it wouldn't *stop* spam. However, all reputable ISPs will
suspend Usenet access, if not cancel the account entirely, for posting
spam.


This is part of what I do for a living. Let me tell you....I've gotten
about 8,000 mails to the abuse address this month alone, and I have
about three hours a week to address them. The higher-ups just don't
see a need for full-time abuse management. Not only that, but about
half of that IS spam, but unlike other accounts, abuse admins can't
filter spam or they'll also filter complaints about spam.

So if one person complains about something somebody posted on the
internet, a policy administrator MIGHT actually see it and then triage
it. "That dude called me a jew" gets bit-bucketed with Scientology
threats and other minor issues and addressed IF I have time; generally,
though, I have bigger fish to fry such as the phishing scammers out of
eastern europe, pedophilia sites (NAILED an entire ring with the help of
the FBI in March), denial of service attacks, copyright infringement,
etc. I get subpoenas from Homeland Security, the FBI and, most
recently, Al Jazeera. (!!) Admins TRY to get it all, but because the
friggin' gubmint confounds every attempt to control spam (it's freedom
of speech, you see, and people "want" spam...just ask the spammers. And
ignore the theft of services...)


Geeez....tell that to the nuts over at Supernews. They take
spamming so seriously that their filters start taking out the
good stuff. Then, if you complain, you get bitched at for
complaining and asked why you want spam.

To be honest, I'd rather err on the side of getting some spam
in order to allow me to NOT miss ANY legit postings. I am an
adult and I know how to use a spam filter. If there's something
I don't like, I'll block it myself, thank you very much.

Besides, one persons spam is another persons gold.

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Old May 24th 06, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Skywise wrote:

Besides, one persons spam is another persons gold.


hardly any of it could possibly qualify as gold for even the
most twisted mind.

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Old May 24th 06, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 04:02:44 -0000, Skywise
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Besides, one persons spam is another persons gold.


Patronizing spammers is what causes them to persist in their blatant
theft of service. Never do that.
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Old May 23rd 06, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Chris W" wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote:

More Usenet spam brought to you through the irresponsible policies of
Google Groups.


I'm unclear on how google could be responsible for this post. What would
stop this kind of post even if google didn't exist?



Because Larry said so and if he said so, it's true. Larry is *never* wrong.
Just ask him.




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