Busted TFR, what to expect?

Robert M. Gary wrote:

Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

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In rec.aviation.piloting Newps wrote:


Robert M. Gary wrote:

Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

They really didn't say much about it on the news, if at all. In
fact, it was further south, towards Modesto and Stockton more than
Sacramento, IIRC. As far as the newspaper, they go to press that night,
so the news you heard the night before is printed in the morning the
following day. The Sac. Bee only does one printing per day. So it would
have been really easy to not hear about the VP's visit until the day
after.

Either way, NOTAMs definitely should have been looked at or
notifications sent out, in one way or another.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:



Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.


They really didn't say much about it on the news, if at all.


That's California, not Montana.

I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

You would think that would be the case, in this case it was not. The
prez was here about 3 weeks ago and it was all over the paper. There
was nothing that I saw concernnig the VP visit. In fact, I mentioned to
several of the pilots in the area that there was a TFR the other day
and not a single one knew about the TFR or the visit. I believe this
was a stealth visit.

-robert

Newps wrote:

I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

Are there ever TFRs in Montana?

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Peter

Peter R. wrote:

Newps wrote:


I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.


Are there ever TFRs in Montana?

Sure. We are in a prime forest fire area. Fire TFR's are small,
usually a 5 mile radius around the fire and a few thousand feet agl.
Those TFR's are easy to avoid, just don't fly very low over smoke and
you won't have to worry about it. Cheney comes to Billings every August
from Jackson on AF2, he then hops on the Blackhawk or Chinook and flies
to Fort Smith for some trout fishing on the world famous Bighorn River.
There's a TFR here at the airport while he's actually here. They then
fly VFR in the helicopters to the river, 40 miles SE of BIL at about
1500 agl. There's a small TFR over the cabins they rent, 5 miles and a
few thousand feet I think. When the prez comes to Montana therre's only
about five places they will go and you'll hgere about it a week in
advance on the local news and in the paper. When Cheney is at his home
in JAC there will be F16's watching the TFR there. You'll occasionally
hear the F16 pilots over JAC here in the tower at BIL as they try to
contact the wayward spamcan pilot on 121.5 and shoo him away from the TFR.

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Newps wrote:


I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

There are reasons other than a political figure being in the area that
may cause a TFR to be up.