Busted TFR, what to expect?

OK so a question for the drivers with XM or other satellite WX. Do these
technologies graphically display TFR's on the display?

- Barney
"bob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Still haven't heard anything from the FSDO, but not much time has
passed. I'll post with whatever they eventually flog me with, but in
the meantime here's some comments on the comments:

Q. Why would NOTAMs on another frequency or AWOS be easier to check
than the current methods?
A. Current methods require one to check a web page or make a phone
call, an extra effort rather different from simply checking another
frequency. It's not so much the time involved, but the relatively
different task.

Q. Are there pilots that really check before EVERY flight?
A. Apparently so. And maybe I will join the ranks. But my computer
isn't on all the time and being Windoze takes a while to boot. Dialing
1-800-WX-BRIEF isn't difficult, maybe they could have a recording just
for major NOTAMs in the area (they already connect you to your regional
FSS station based on your calling phone number).

Q. Don't you check weather before every flight?
A. X-country, yes, local, no. It's a California thing I guess...ya
gotta live here a summer to understand.

Q. How would an email notification work, they don't know what airport
you're at?
A. Similar to AOPA's system, the FAA would setup a web page where
pilots voluntarily participating would submit their email address and
location (either state, zip code, or airport ID) and they would receive
emails for TFR and NOTAMs. This would help for the local flights where
many pilots don't get a briefing. The point being, no single method
will work, but an email notification system would be very cheap and
relatively effective for those participating. We might as well
recognize that for local VFR flights there are just a lot of pilots
that don't get briefings, so why not reduce the number of TFR
violations with a simple email system?

BTW, there's an interesting report about TFR violations at
http://www.volpe.dot.gov/opsad/docs/tfranalysis.pdf. Here's a
statistic that caught my eye: "...2900 violations in the two years
between June 2002 and June 2004 alone."

Obviously the current system isn't working well. Why not be practical
and implement additional notification methods to reduce the violation
rate?

Barney Rubble wrote:

OK so a question for the drivers with XM or other satellite WX. Do these
technologies graphically display TFR's on the display?

I have WSI downlinked weather and the first year with the system I
subscribed to the TFR package. Yes, the TFR was graphically displayed.

Given the fact that I fly more IFR than VFR, I decided the TFR add-on was
not worth the additional cost to me and didn't renew it the second year.
Someone flying a lot of VFR would certainly have a different opinion.

--
Peter

"Barney Rubble" wrote in news:4475e76b$0$9421
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OK so a question for the drivers with XM or other satellite WX. Do these
technologies graphically display TFR's on the display?

- Barney


YES!!! (at least with the XM package).

The 396 shows the TFR's in red just like on this page:

And you can see the representation of your current position in relationship
to it.... (or restricted, or MOA, etc...). It also warns you when your
current corse is going to cause you to enter a TFR; Restricted, MOA, etc...

moving the "pointer" to the graphic of the area brings a "pop-up" of the
description of the TFR

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