Busted TFR, what to expect?

In article hQsdg.3183$No1.816@attbi_s71,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

It's a basic part of the preflight actions. I also spend a good 15-20
minutes walking around my airplane before every flight

I do a thorough pre-flight inspection before every flight. Every control
surface is checked for continuity, all four gas tanks are visually
inspected, oil is checked, wheel pants are given a tug, prop is examined,
stall indicator movement verified, every screw, bolt and connector is
visually inspected...

I've still got 12 to 17 minutes left. What're you doing that I'm not?

Check nav lights and rotating beacon

Check electric fuel pump

Check flap operation

Sample fuel from each tank and from the gascalator

Touch everything inspected (not just look at it but touch it - how
can you tell a nut is loose just by looking?).

Alternator belt is checked for freeplay

Inspect tires and brakes (including exposed lines)

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

In article ,
Bob Noel wrote:

Touch everything inspected (not just look at it but touch it - how
can you tell a nut is loose just by looking?).

On my plane (an SR22) many of the nuts have a dab of paint on them where
they meet the screw. If they move the paint dab cracks. It's quite
visually apparent.

rg

Check nav lights and rotating beacon

You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight.
(And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.)

Check electric fuel pump

That's before take-off, on my checklist.

Check flap operation

Yep, those are down and inspected during the pre-flight.

Sample fuel from each tank and from the gascalator

Yep, that's part of it, too. (Guess I figured that was a "given"...)

Touch everything inspected (not just look at it but touch it - how
can you tell a nut is loose just by looking?).

Roger that.

Alternator belt is checked for freeplay

I can't get at mine, sadly.

Inspect tires and brakes (including exposed lines)

Mine are under the "fancy pants" -- so all I can see is the bottom of the
tires.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:WFDdg.3821$1i1.3343@attbi_s72...
Check nav lights and rotating beacon

You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight.
(And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.)

Of course you check them on every flight. Your strobes are required even in
daytime. And the other lights, well...would you rather learn they were
inoperative when you don't need them, or just before you were planning to
head out at night, thus forcing the flight to be scrubbed?

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:WFDdg.3821$1i1.3343@attbi_s72...
Check nav lights and rotating beacon
You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight.
(And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.)

Of course you check them on every flight. Your strobes are required even in
daytime. And the other lights, well...would you rather learn they were
inoperative when you don't need them, or just before you were planning to
head out at night, thus forcing the flight to be scrubbed?

That is exactly why I check them before every flight, and also why I
carry a spare 7512-12V in the little junk box in the back.

-jav

Peter Duniho wrote:
Your strobes are required even in
daytime.

So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr?

The Visitor wrote:
Peter Duniho wrote:
Your strobes are required even in
daytime.

So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr?

I think FAR 91.209 (b) covers this - IF the plane is equipped with
anticollision lights they must lighted (unless the PIC determines in the
interest of safety they should be turned off). So a plane not even equipped
with them is naturally not required to light them!

"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Peter Duniho wrote:
Your strobes are required even in daytime.

So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr?

No, and that's not what I said. Your reading comprehension is pitiful.

I wrote "YOUR strobes are required even in daytime". Jay's airplane is
equipped with strobes, and no rotating beacon (so they are his
anti-collision lights). As such, they are required to be lit during all
operations, including daytime.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Peter Duniho wrote:
Your strobes are required even in daytime.

So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr?

No, and that's not what I said. Your reading comprehension is pitiful.

I wrote "YOUR strobes are required even in daytime". Jay's airplane is
equipped with strobes, and no rotating beacon (so they are his
anti-collision lights). As such, they are required to be lit during all
operations, including daytime.

Pete

Newer twin-Cessnas have two switches, one labeled "anti-coll" that turns on
the rotating beacon and one labeled "strobes" that .turns on the stobe
lights. The strobes do not have to be turned on during day-vfr.

I know you are referring to Jay's airplane not having a beacon must operate
the strobes but others not reading the full thread (as I started out to do)
may think that strobes are always required to be on if you have them.

Just a nit

Allen

"Allen" wrote in message
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Newer twin-Cessnas have two switches, one labeled "anti-coll" that turns
on
the rotating beacon and one labeled "strobes" that .turns on the stobe
lights. The strobes do not have to be turned on during day-vfr.

I've flown older Cessnas with the same configuration. There are LOTS of
airplanes with both strobes and a rotating beacon, of all sorts of ages.
So? The rule says that the anti-collision lights need to be on. If your
strobes aren't your anti-collision lights, then obviously they aren't
addressed by that regulation.

This is basic stuff, should be covered in anyone's primary training. Blame
your instructor if you're confused by this thread.

I know you are referring to Jay's airplane not having a beacon must
operate
the strobes but others not reading the full thread (as I started out to
do)
may think that strobes are always required to be on if you have them.

They would only think that if they didn't bother to know and understand the
regulations. I never wrote that strobes are always required to be on, and
no one should infer that from my post. I was very specific about what I
wrote.

Just a nit

It's not a nit. It's just irrelevant. A "nit" would address some failure
in what I wrote. Everything I wrote was true and correct. It was intended
to address a very specific point, in a very specific context. Anyone trying
to extrapolate that point to some unrelated context is making a mistake.

Pete