Missing from the FAA database now

If you want to hire me as a limo driver, I have to request a copy of my
driving from the RMV. You also need my permission to do a criminal
background check or credit check on me. It should work the same way for
pilots.
"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie wrote:
The public has no business knowing what ratings I have

I'm not sure I agree with you. Let's say I want to hire you as a pilot.
Should I not have the right to verify your credentials?

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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I'm not sure I agree with you. Let's say I want to hire you as a pilot.
Should I not have the right to verify your credentials?

If you want to hire me as a limo driver, I have to request a copy of my
driving from the RMV. You also need my permission to do a criminal
background check or credit check on me. It should work the same way for
pilots.

Exactly. Someone seeking employment has the right to have any party
disclose any records they may have about that person. The point is that the
party should not be disclosing that information without the express
permission of the person.

Pete

In article ,
"Peter Duniho" wrote:

If you want to hire me as a limo driver, I have to request a copy of my
driving from the RMV. You also need my permission to do a criminal
background check or credit check on me. It should work the same way for
pilots.

Exactly. Someone seeking employment has the right to have any party
disclose any records they may have about that person. The point is that the
party should not be disclosing that information without the express
permission of the person.

any relevant records, not any records.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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Exactly. Someone seeking employment has the right to have any party
disclose any records they may have about that person. The point is that
the
party should not be disclosing that information without the express
permission of the person.

any relevant records, not any records.

While I agree that the disclosure should be limited to "relevant" records,
that's just not how it works. The person asking for the documents gets to
decide what's "relevant", and the person about whom the documents pertain
gets to decide whether to release the documents or not. At no point is
actual relevance a determining factor.

Pete

In article ,
"Peter Duniho" wrote:

Exactly. Someone seeking employment has the right to have any party
disclose any records they may have about that person. The point is that
the
party should not be disclosing that information without the express
permission of the person.

any relevant records, not any records.

While I agree that the disclosure should be limited to "relevant" records,
that's just not how it works. The person asking for the documents gets to
decide what's "relevant", and the person about whom the documents pertain
gets to decide whether to release the documents or not. At no point is
actual relevance a determining factor.

How it works in practice (or the abuse that occurs) does not change that the
right to records is limited to those rights that are relevant.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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How it works in practice (or the abuse that occurs) does not change that
the
right to records is limited to those rights that are relevant.

The right to records is NOT limited to those rights that are relevant. The
only limitation is what the person to whom the records refer permits.

I can disclose my full medical history to my auto mechanic if I want. The
fact that those records are irrelevant to them fixing my car matters not one
bit. It's still legal for them to ask, and legal for me to agree to it.

A smart person won't allow disclosure of irrelevant records, but there's no
legal requirement for them to limit disclosure to relevant records.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...
"Steve Foley" wrote in message
...
"Roy Smith" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure I agree with you. Let's say I want to hire you as a pilot.
Should I not have the right to verify your credentials?

If you want to hire me as a limo driver, I have to request a copy of my driving from the RMV. You also need my
permission to do a criminal background check or credit check on me. It should work the same way for pilots.

Exactly. Someone seeking employment has the right to have any party disclose any records they may have about that
person. The point is that the party should not be disclosing that information without the express permission of the
person.

Pete

Permission in implied by the act of applying for the job, or the offering of services, etc...

".Blueskies." wrote in message
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Permission in implied by the act of applying for the job, or the offering
of services, etc...


No it's not. Most state and federal regulations require explicit permission
for protected information.

".Blueskies." wrote in message
. com...
Permission in implied by the act of applying for the job, or the offering
of services, etc...

As Gig says, permission is not implied. Nor should it be. It's reasonable
for a prospective employer to make disclosure of such documents a prequisite
for hiring, but the employer needs to be explicit about that requirement,
and the applicant needs to be explicit about giving permission.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...
".Blueskies." wrote in message
. com...
Permission in implied by the act of applying for the job, or the offering of services, etc...

As Gig says, permission is not implied. Nor should it be. It's reasonable for a prospective employer to make
disclosure of such documents a prequisite for hiring, but the employer needs to be explicit about that requirement,
and the applicant needs to be explicit about giving permission.


The permission is usually in the form of the applicant's signature on the application form with all the fine print....