Careless Linemen

Martin Hotze wrote:
If I do my job I only get my rate and no extras. If I do more than expected
then I happily accept a tip.



You should get *his* rate then. Do you work harder in your job?

You want to pay for substandard work, don't complain if you get it.
Irregardless of whether it's the FBO's decision to pay the poor slob slave
wages, it's the interaction between the lineman and your aircraft that matters.
You can stand by your principles and be a tight ass or you can be known on the
ramp as the guy who tips. Guess who'll end up getting the better service?

Right? Wrong? It doesn't matter. That's just the way it is.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

On Sat, 27 May 2006 08:56:33 GMT, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

You can stand by your principles and be a tight ass or you can be known on the
ramp as the guy who tips. Guess who'll end up getting the better service?

well, tip every single time but once. What will happen? You're then short
before making excuses because you don't have tipped.

#m
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Martin Hotze wrote:
If I do my job I only get my rate and no extras. If I do more than
expected
then I happily accept a tip.



You should get *his* rate then. Do you work harder in your job?

You want to pay for substandard work, don't complain if you get it.
Irregardless of whether it's the FBO's decision to pay the poor slob slave
wages, it's the interaction between the lineman and your aircraft that
matters. You can stand by your principles and be a tight ass or you can be
known on the ramp as the guy who tips. Guess who'll end up getting the
better service?

Right? Wrong? It doesn't matter. That's just the way it is.

You'll have to excuse Martin. He is used to the European idea of no tips
for service people.

Sure does make for lousy service at restaurants, from what I have noticed.

It may not be right for the management to pay poor, but the tipping model
does make for much better service, believe it or not, Martin.
--
Jim in NC

On Sat, 27 May 2006 14:59:30 -0400, Morgans wrote:

You'll have to excuse Martin. He is used to the European idea of no tips
for service people.

you're wrong on this one. I am against tipping service people without good
reason.

Sure does make for lousy service at restaurants, from what I have noticed.

wrong. again.

It may not be right for the management to pay poor, but the tipping model
does make for much better service, believe it or not, Martin.

I love to tip (read: honor) for service better than expected; and I spread
the word about receiving good (better than usual) service. But I don't tip
just because I received what I paid for. For average service at
§pickyourchoice (restaurant, bar, lineguy, ...) I don't want to give
_extra_ money (read: honor his average service). And I don't want to
substitute his boss with poor wages (because the boss also expects tips to
be given).

Do you tip the blonde braindead waitress serving your plate with her finger
in your meal? just because you always tip at restaurants and because she
had a big dumb grin on her face hiding her unskilled serving 'technique'?

#m
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I always tip the waitress because they work for tips, they
draw a salary about 1/2 the minimum wage because the law
expects they will get minimum wage when the tips are
included.

I tip if they laugh at my silly jokes, if they have a nice
smile and they have a good figure. I tip more if they do a
good job, even if it is a guy or a fat girl.


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 27 May 2006 14:59:30 -0400, Morgans wrote:
|
| You'll have to excuse Martin. He is used to the European
idea of no tips
| for service people.
|
| you're wrong on this one. I am against tipping service
people without good
| reason.
|
| Sure does make for lousy service at restaurants, from
what I have noticed.
|
| wrong. again.
|
| It may not be right for the management to pay poor, but
the tipping model
| does make for much better service, believe it or not,
Martin.
|
| I love to tip (read: honor) for service better than
expected; and I spread
| the word about receiving good (better than usual) service.
But I don't tip
| just because I received what I paid for. For average
service at
| §pickyourchoice (restaurant, bar, lineguy, ...) I don't
want to give
| _extra_ money (read: honor his average service). And I
don't want to
| substitute his boss with poor wages (because the boss also
expects tips to
| be given).
|
| Do you tip the blonde braindead waitress serving your
plate with her finger
| in your meal? just because you always tip at restaurants
and because she
| had a big dumb grin on her face hiding her unskilled
serving 'technique'?
|
| #m
| --
| Lost the phone number of a good friend? Don't know whom
the kids called?
| Don't worry any longer! Call 1-800-2NSA ... we are here to
help you!

On Sat, 27 May 2006 15:22:27 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

I always tip the waitress because they work for tips, they
draw a salary about 1/2 the minimum wage because the law
expects they will get minimum wage when the tips are
included.

This is the aitress' problem, not mine. Sorry for being so unsocial and
still being European.

I tip if they laugh at my silly jokes, if they have a nice
smile and they have a good figure. I tip more if they do a
good job, even if it is a guy or a fat girl.

So you tip also for lousy service and tip more for big boobs. I don't.

#m
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this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read.

Flat bellies are more important than big boobs.



"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 27 May 2006 15:22:27 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| I always tip the waitress because they work for tips,
they
| draw a salary about 1/2 the minimum wage because the law
| expects they will get minimum wage when the tips are
| included.
|
| This is the aitress' problem, not mine. Sorry for being so
unsocial and
| still being European.
|
| I tip if they laugh at my silly jokes, if they have a
nice
| smile and they have a good figure. I tip more if they do
a
| good job, even if it is a guy or a fat girl.
|
| So you tip also for lousy service and tip more for big
boobs. I don't.
|
| #m
| --
| Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns?
If you now consider
| that a signature usually consists of up to four lines,
this gives you enough
| space to spread a tremendous amount of information with
your messages. So seize
| this opportunity and don't waste your signature with
bull**** nobody will read.

Do you tip the blonde braindead waitress serving your plate with her
finger
in your meal? just because you always tip at restaurants and because she
had a big dumb grin on her face hiding her unskilled serving 'technique'?

Depends on if she has a nice rack!


Karl
"curator" N185KG

Martin Hotze wrote:
Do you tip the blonde braindead waitress serving your plate with her finger
in your meal? just because you always tip at restaurants and because she
had a big dumb grin on her face hiding her unskilled serving 'technique'?


No, but I have hundreds of restaurants to choose from. There are only two
airports, and I'm already at the cheaper one.

As for tipping for average service, once the linemen figure out you tip, service
isn't necessarily average any more.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

On Sun, 28 May 2006 00:57:33 GMT, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

As for tipping for average service, once the linemen figure out you tip, service
isn't necessarily average any more.

you have to tip first to have him realize that there is more than average
service to give?

#m
--
Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider
that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough
space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize
this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read.