Air Scooter a Farce???

Why would the lack of autorotate make it a deathtrap if it has a BRS?

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL

"Ben Hallert" wrote in message
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Why would the lack of autorotate make it a deathtrap if it has a BRS?

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL


Because a properly executed autorotation is a very controlled landing with
g-forces no different than a normal landing.

A BRS is not a landing but a controlled crash and by the looks of it there
isn't a lot of airframe on that thing to absorb the energy of the crash.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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"Ben Hallert" wrote in message
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Why would the lack of autorotate make it a deathtrap if it has a BRS?

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL


Because a properly executed autorotation is a very controlled landing with
g-forces no different than a normal landing.

A BRS is not a landing but a controlled crash and by the looks of it there
isn't a lot of airframe on that thing to absorb the energy of the crash.


To revise and extend my remarks... (ie I hit the send button before I should
have)

Also there is the issue of where in the hell are they going to put the BRS?
Anywhere but on top of the mast will mean that the aircraft is going to have
to land in some way other than right side up.

Because a properly executed autorotation is a very controlled landing with
g-forces no different than a normal landing.

NTSB database is full of reports of Jet Rangers and the like breaking
skids when being autorotated by professional pilots.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Because a properly executed autorotation is a very controlled landing
with
g-forces no different than a normal landing.

NTSB database is full of reports of Jet Rangers and the like breaking
skids when being autorotated by professional pilots.

-Robert


Just because they are professional pilots doesn't mean the autorotation that
broke the skids was properly executed. And for every 1 that broke the skids
there are no telling how many that did no damage to the airframe.

Is there a single case of a BRS being used on ANY aircraft that the airframe
wasn't damaged? And looking at the air scooter if the airframe is damaged
you can bet your ass that the pilot will be as well.

Is there a single case of a BRS being used on ANY aircraft that the airframe wasn't damaged?

I was just wondering if there is a single case of a helicopter doing an
actual auto rotation were it wasn't damaged. When I flew the Bell 47 it
wasn't much of an issue but the big lifting helos and even the Jet
Rangers don't have it quite so easy. I think the weights they put on
the ends of the rotors are only there to give enough energy to save
lives, not necessarily to avoid damaging the aircraft.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Is there a single case of a BRS being used on ANY aircraft that the
airframe wasn't damaged?

I was just wondering if there is a single case of a helicopter doing an
actual auto rotation were it wasn't damaged. When I flew the Bell 47 it
wasn't much of an issue but the big lifting helos and even the Jet
Rangers don't have it quite so easy. I think the weights they put on
the ends of the rotors are only there to give enough energy to save
lives, not necessarily to avoid damaging the aircraft.

-Robert


Practice auto-rotation to touchdown is done as normal training in Jet
Rangers.

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Is there a single case of a BRS being used on ANY aircraft that the
airframe wasn't damaged?

I was just wondering if there is a single case of a helicopter doing an
actual auto rotation were it wasn't damaged. When I flew the Bell 47 it
wasn't much of an issue but the big lifting helos and even the Jet
Rangers don't have it quite so easy. I think the weights they put on
the ends of the rotors are only there to give enough energy to save
lives, not necessarily to avoid damaging the aircraft.

-Robert


Well I know of at least one. During my training and with about 5 hours of
solo I had to autorotate when I lost the engine in an R22. Thank god I had
just spent the previous hour practicing autos with my instructor. The only
difference was instead of to hover as practiced I had to land it.

The instructor walked out to the taxiway wondering why I had landed and
parked there.

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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:

"Ben Hallert" wrote in message
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Why would the lack of autorotate make it a deathtrap if it has a BRS?

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL


Because a properly executed autorotation is a very controlled landing with
g-forces no different than a normal landing.

A BRS is not a landing but a controlled crash and by the looks of it there
isn't a lot of airframe on that thing to absorb the energy of the crash.

Also, you would somehow have to jettison the rotor, or else the rotor
would snag the BRS lines.

The BRS is a maybe not a done deal. They won't even confirm that the
BRS will be implemented.