Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430

You should probably just stay with your 195 or upgrade to the 396. There
really isn't any advantage to adding the 300 at this point. Unless you
are willing to dump many thousands into upgrading your panel you already
have a way to navigate and it isn't costing you anything.

You mentioned about eventually going IFR. If that is true it would be
more cost effective to sell the current plane and buy one that already
had the IFR panel in it. My wild-ass-guess would be that it would cost
you upwards of fifty grand to add all the necessary equipment to your
current bird to make it IFR capable. Maybe not that much but it would be
an expensive venture for sure.

Reguardless on what you end up doing, good luck to you.

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ

wrote:
Thanks for the perspective on the 430. I know that the full IFR
installation on the 300 is a lot more complex, however I'm just looking
at VFR capability right now. The plane (a 50s vintage warbird) has zero
navigation equipment installed other than a Garmin 195 handheld (no
VORs, no ADF, and old electric gyros with no vacuum system)

I'm a long ways from an IFR capable panel, but I'd rather get a GPS
that could eventually be used IFR vs one that would definitely have to
be replaced at that point.

It looks like there is about a $3K difference in fully installed prices
(for VFR capability) between the 2 boxes, but I'm trying to confirm
that.

Thanks,
Eric

Jon,

The total is probably closer to $25K to get to an IFR panel, but it is
significant as you point out. There really aren't any of my aircraft
available on the market with IFR panels, so its more of a decision of
whether I want this plane to be IFR capable in the long term.

After talking with the avionics shop today and looking at their demo
396, I may go the route you suggested anyway. Unfortunately now I want
a transponder upgrade so I can get the TIS traffic on the 396.

Thanks,
Eric
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

Yea after I sent the post I figured that 50 AMU's was probably pretty
high... As far as the 396 goes I think that is a good choice, Sorry I
cost you more cash by wanting the TIS traffic upgrade... :-)

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ

wrote:
Jon,

The total is probably closer to $25K to get to an IFR panel, but it is
significant as you point out. There really aren't any of my aircraft
available on the market with IFR panels, so its more of a decision of
whether I want this plane to be IFR capable in the long term.

After talking with the avionics shop today and looking at their demo
396, I may go the route you suggested anyway. Unfortunately now I want
a transponder upgrade so I can get the TIS traffic on the 396.

Thanks,
Eric
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

,

Are you familiar with the panel mounts at airgizmos.com? They might
help make it look tidy.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
,

Are you familiar with the panel mounts at airgizmos.com? They might
help make it look tidy.

I have the 396 and agree it is an excellent choice as your one and only GPS if
you can live without RNAV approaches.

I've seen the airgizmo thing and if you can get it past the FAA I think it's a
great concept. I'm not aware of any installations in GA aircraft, I think the
avionics shops are still afraid of them. I don't know what kind of certification
hoops you have to jump through for your warbird.

BTW, has anyone seen one of the airgizmo mounts that's been blessed by a FSDO
for other than homebuilt?

Dave

Dave Butler wrote:


I've seen the airgizmo thing and if you can get it past the FAA I think
it's a great concept.

Just put it in.


I'm not aware of any installations in GA aircraft,
I think the avionics shops are still afraid of them.

We have about 6 on the field here alone. they are turning up everywhere
you look around here.




BTW, has anyone seen one of the airgizmo mounts that's been blessed by a
FSDO for other than homebuilt?

It's not up to FSDO as no 337 is needed, it's a minor alteration.

Newps wrote:
Dave Butler wrote:


I've seen the airgizmo thing and if you can get it past the FAA I think
it's a great concept.

Just put it in.


I'm not aware of any installations in GA aircraft,
I think the avionics shops are still afraid of them.

We have about 6 on the field here alone. they are turning up everywhere
you look around here.




BTW, has anyone seen one of the airgizmo mounts that's been blessed by a
FSDO for other than homebuilt?

It's not up to FSDO as no 337 is needed, it's a minor alteration.

I have seen the Air Gizmo mount for the 396, and since my plane is
Experimental the installation would be fine. However, I don't have the
panel space without moving a lot of stuff around so I'll be mounting it
on a bracket near the glareshield if I go that route.

I've seen several ads for combos of a 396, the dock, an SL-40 com, and
a GTX-327 transponder for $6K. Looks like they are actively marketing
to the LSA and homebuilt market.

Thanks,
Eric