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"Al" wrote:
"karl gruber" wrote in message
...
Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel your own airplane.
Can't fuel your own car either.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

Really? Cite?

I can provide a citation that shows motorcycle drivers and pilots at
certain airports are exempt from Oregon's fuelish law:

"Exemptions to Oregon’s fueling laws allow certain individuals and
businesses to dispense Class 1 flammable liquids (gasoline). Those
exemptions a

1. Pilots may fuel their own aircraft at airports permitted by the
Oregon Department of Aviation.
2. Motorcyclists, operating their motorcycle, may handle the nozzle to
dispense gasoline. If a motorcyclist wants to fuel their motorcycle, the
retail station attendant is required to activate the pump and hand the
nozzle to the motorcyclist. When the fueling is complete, the motorcyclist
is required to hand the nozzle back to the attendant to deactivate the
dispenser. A motorcyclist may not activate or deactivate the fuel
dispensing devices."

From:
http://www.oregon.gov/OOHS/SFM/Cardlock_Program.shtml

Jim Logajan wrote in
:

"Al" wrote:
"karl gruber" wrote in message
...
Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel your own airplane.
Can't fuel your own car either.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

Really? Cite?

I can provide a citation that shows motorcycle drivers and pilots at
certain airports are exempt from Oregon's fuelish law:

"Exemptions to Oregon’s fueling laws allow certain individuals and
businesses to dispense Class 1 flammable liquids (gasoline). Those
exemptions a

1. Pilots may fuel their own aircraft at airports permitted by the
Oregon Department of Aviation.
2. Motorcyclists, operating their motorcycle, may handle the nozzle
to
dispense gasoline. If a motorcyclist wants to fuel their motorcycle,
the retail station attendant is required to activate the pump and hand
the nozzle to the motorcyclist. When the fueling is complete, the
motorcyclist is required to hand the nozzle back to the attendant to
deactivate the dispenser. A motorcyclist may not activate or deactivate
the fuel dispensing devices."

From:
http://www.oregon.gov/OOHS/SFM/Cardlock_Program.shtml


Thank you for that info. Although I like to turn off the pump
and then squeeze out the last drops before hanging up the nozzle.
I've seen enough fuel come out of the hose that way to get me
half a mile down the road!

Although I'd still be very reluctant to let anyone fuel my car
either. That'd be especially so if I had, say, a very expensive
car, something unique, a 'classic', etc....

Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

Brian
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Skywise wrote:
Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

It's for safety purposes. The general public does not have the
required skills and training to pump gasoline, ergo you need a
professional for the job to keep accidents from happening.
(/sarcasm_off)

I've seen some idiots before who would talk on the phone or smoke a
cigarette while pumping gas, but IMHO I find a state law telling me
that I'm not competent to pump gas very insulting.

Mike

"Mike Gaskins" wrote in message
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Skywise wrote:
Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

It's for safety purposes. The general public does not have the
required skills and training to pump gasoline, ergo you need a
professional for the job to keep accidents from happening.
(/sarcasm_off)

I've seen some idiots before who would talk on the phone or smoke a
cigarette while pumping gas, but IMHO I find a state law telling me
that I'm not competent to pump gas very insulting.

Mike


Safety my ass. It is a make work law.

BTW... Cell Phones really don't cause fires at gas stations.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
BTW... Cell Phones really don't cause fires at gas stations.

Snopes urban legends page on this subject agrees, but you'll find warning
stickers on some gas pumps:

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

Jim Logajan wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
BTW... Cell Phones really don't cause fires at gas stations.

Snopes urban legends page on this subject agrees, but you'll find warning
stickers on some gas pumps:


If you were a lawyer for a gas station, would you recommend the sticker?

I would. G

"Mike Gaskins" wrote in message
oups.com...
Skywise wrote:
Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

It's for safety purposes. The general public does not have the
required skills and training to pump gasoline, ergo you need a
professional for the job to keep accidents from happening.
(/sarcasm_off)

I've seen some idiots before who would talk on the phone or smoke a
cigarette while pumping gas, but IMHO I find a state law telling me
that I'm not competent to pump gas very insulting.


And I saw someone drive off dragging the fuel hose behind...

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Skywise wrote:
Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

The alleged reasons are itemized in "480.315 Policy" of the relevant
statutes, found he

http://www.oregon.gov/OOHS/SFM/docs/...ules080505.pdf

That these issues have been shown to be false or grossly exaggerated in 48
other states has not appeared to phase the legislature or allegedly Oregon
voters (last time they were given the option to dump the law in 1982 the
voters said no thanks).

But getting back to aviation - at least pilots can now rest easy knowing
they can fuel their own aircraft when landing in Oregon.

Jim Logajan wrote in news:Xns97D38A5FCB7F6JamesLLugojcom@
216.168.3.30:

Skywise wrote:
Hell, what's the purpose of this insane law, anyway? Got any
info on that part?

The alleged reasons are itemized in "480.315 Policy" of the relevant
statutes, found he

http://www.oregon.gov/OOHS/SFM/docs/...k/CardlockStat
utes_Rules080505.pdf

That these issues have been shown to be false or grossly exaggerated in 48
other states has not appeared to phase the legislature or allegedly Oregon
voters (last time they were given the option to dump the law in 1982 the
voters said no thanks).

But getting back to aviation - at least pilots can now rest easy knowing
they can fuel their own aircraft when landing in Oregon.

Thank's for the link. My first thought at starting to read it was,
"HA! What a ****ing joke!". I'm considering sending an email to the
appropriate person in Oregon saying the same thing.

Brian
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