Nothing good about Ethanol

"Bob Noel" wrote:

"Dan Luke" wrote:


Those kinds of questions also apply to the exploration for and extraction
of
oil, the transportation and refining of crude, and the transportaton of
gasoline. It takes energy to make energy; this is not news. Also,
gasoline
has enormous hidden costs related to our (U. S.) international efforts,
military and otherwise, to maintain the security of imported oil sources.

The same military is used to protect the land and people who would
grow corn for ethanol.

....and everything else *at home*. But how much extra expense do we entail
because we must protect our foreign oil supply?

I seriously doubt we would be at war with terrorism instigated mostly by
Arabs if imported oil were not a vital national interest that has required a
military presence in the Middle East for decades. The cost of Homeland
Security and the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan should count in the price
of gasoline, IMO.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:

"Bob Noel" wrote:

"Dan Luke" wrote:


Those kinds of questions also apply to the exploration for and extraction
of
oil, the transportation and refining of crude, and the transportaton of
gasoline. It takes energy to make energy; this is not news. Also,
gasoline
has enormous hidden costs related to our (U. S.) international efforts,
military and otherwise, to maintain the security of imported oil sources.

The same military is used to protect the land and people who would
grow corn for ethanol.

...and everything else *at home*. But how much extra expense do we entail
because we must protect our foreign oil supply?

I seriously doubt we would be at war with terrorism instigated mostly by
Arabs if imported oil were not a vital national interest that has required a
military presence in the Middle East for decades. The cost of Homeland
Security and the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan should count in the price
of gasoline, IMO.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Yeah, that World Trade Center thing is not worth getting excited about...

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim, buddy, you're a nice guy, but for the love of Orville, can you please
snip for those of us on limited bandwidth?

Jim


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Dan Luke wrote:

"Bob Noel" wrote:

"Dan Luke" wrote:


Those kinds of questions also apply to the exploration for and
extraction
of
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The cost of Homeland
Security and the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan should count in the
price
of gasoline, IMO.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Yeah, that World Trade Center thing is not worth getting excited about...

--
Jim Pennino

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June g

Montblack

("RST Engineering" wrote)
Jim, buddy, you're a nice guy, but for the love of Orville, can you please
snip for those of us on limited bandwidth?

RST Engineering wrote:
Jim, buddy, you're a nice guy, but for the love of Orville, can you please
snip for those of us on limited bandwidth?

Jim

snip

Geez Jim, the whole thing was only 37 lines long; are you using a
wood burning modem?

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Jim Pennino

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wrote:

I seriously doubt we would be at war with terrorism instigated mostly by
Arabs if imported oil were not a vital national interest that has required
a
military presence in the Middle East for decades. The cost of Homeland
Security and the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan should count in the
price
of gasoline, IMO.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Yeah, that World Trade Center thing is not worth getting excited about...

Huh??

Dan Luke wrote:

wrote:

I seriously doubt we would be at war with terrorism instigated mostly by
Arabs if imported oil were not a vital national interest that has required
a
military presence in the Middle East for decades. The cost of Homeland
Security and the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan should count in the
price
of gasoline, IMO.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Yeah, that World Trade Center thing is not worth getting excited about...

Huh??

Do I really have to explain this?

The US military presence in the Middle East was tiny until the invasion
of Kuwait (1990). The post Gulf War presence was larger than before,
but still small until 9/11.

Homeland Security and the invasion of Afghanistan were direct results
of 9/11.

As for Iraq, if 9/11 hadn't happened, Saddam would probably still be
in power.

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Jim Pennino

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Homeland Security and the invasion of Afghanistan were direct results
of 9/11.

Duh!

And 9/11 was a result of what? What is the root reason our nation is so
intimately involved with these scum?

--
Dan

"Gut feeling"

Intestinologists concur that the human gut does not contain any rational
thoughts.

What the human gut *is* full of is moderately well known.

Dan Luke wrote:

wrote:



Homeland Security and the invasion of Afghanistan were direct results
of 9/11.

Duh!

And 9/11 was a result of what? What is the root reason our nation is so
intimately involved with these scum?

Wild eyed, Islamic religious extremists who are still fighting the
Medieval Crusades against the infidels, i.e. us.

BTW, care to guess which country exported the most crude oil to the
US in March of 2006?

Care to guess of the top 5 crude oil exporters how many can be
considered to be Islamic?

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Jim Pennino

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Care to guess of the top 5 crude oil exporters how many can be considered
to be Islamic?


Um, does being "controlled" by Islamic Fundamentalist nut-jobs count?

Let's see, did you see the Mohammad cartoon in your local papers?
No?

How about on your local TV "news"?
No again?

National "news"?
Nothing?

See the South Park (episodes) about Jesus? Scientology? Jews?

How about the (one scene) with Mohammad standing in the doorway?
No again?

Maybe "our women" should cover their heads, too. Wouldn't want to offend...

Oh hell, I'm heading out for a Friday evening Graduation Party ... the
drinking kind!


Montblack