Those *dangerous* Korean War relics

"Jim Macklin" wrote in
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Snipola
Laws change, society changes, hopefully for the better. We
should remember the past, so we don't continue to make the
same mistakes, but we must get over the anger and personal
feelings about what happened 50, 100, 150, 500, 2000 years
ago.

I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not. Remember the
past, yes, but get over it.

Brian
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

I can't think of his name right now, but there is a black
reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book about
how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he doesn't
have to live in Africa.



"Skywise" wrote in message
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in
| news:UEpgg.26071$ZW3.17560@dukeread04:
|
| Snipola
| Laws change, society changes, hopefully for the better.
We
| should remember the past, so we don't continue to make
the
| same mistakes, but we must get over the anger and
personal
| feelings about what happened 50, 100, 150, 500, 2000
years
| ago.
|
| I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
| the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from
the
| descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally
enslaved?
| Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not. Remember
the
| past, yes, but get over it.
|
| Brian
| --
| http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy,
Skepticism
| Seismic FAQ:
http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
| Quake "predictions":
http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
| Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I can't think of his name right now, but there is a black
reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book about
how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he doesn't
have to live in Africa.

You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a columnist (not reporter) for
the Wall Street Journal who has argued against reparations.

But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is better off in America
than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express gratitude about his
ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns that atrocity in the
strongest terms.

The idea that even the most conservative black scholar could be "glad" his
ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your own twisted, racist,
slavery-rationalizing imagination.

--Gary

Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct thought
in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
black
| reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book
about
| how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
doesn't
| have to live in Africa.
|
| You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a columnist
(not reporter) for
| the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
reparations.
|
| But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
better off in America
| than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express gratitude
about his
| ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns that
atrocity in the
| strongest terms.
|
| The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
could be "glad" his
| ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your own
twisted, racist,
| slavery-rationalizing imagination.
|
| --Gary
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:Aprgg.26077$ZW3.7447@dukeread04...
Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct thought
in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.

Human memory distorts recollections in the direction of our expectations. So
if you harbor the disgusting expectation that African Americans are (or
should be) "glad" their ancestors were enslaved, then your memory of what
you think you read will be influenced in that direction.

If the book passage you believe you read (and cited approvingly) were really
to exist, then you or someone else here would be able to find it. It would
be such an outrageous sentiment that a Google search would easily uncover
copious discussion of it.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
black
| reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book
about
| how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
doesn't
| have to live in Africa.
|
| You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a columnist
(not reporter) for
| the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
reparations.
|
| But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
better off in America
| than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express gratitude
about his
| ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns that
atrocity in the
| strongest terms.
|
| The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
could be "glad" his
| ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your own
twisted, racist,
| slavery-rationalizing imagination.
|
| --Gary
|
|

Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.
He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier. I
don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
somebody will remember the name of the book or the author
and then you can apologize to me.



--
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:Aprgg.26077$ZW3.7447@dukeread04...
| Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct
thought
| in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.
|
| Human memory distorts recollections in the direction of
our expectations. So
| if you harbor the disgusting expectation that African
Americans are (or
| should be) "glad" their ancestors were enslaved, then your
memory of what
| you think you read will be influenced in that direction.
|
| If the book passage you believe you read (and cited
approvingly) were really
| to exist, then you or someone else here would be able to
find it. It would
| be such an outrageous sentiment that a Google search would
easily uncover
| copious discussion of it.
|
| --Gary
|
| "Gary Drescher" wrote in
message
| . ..
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| | I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
| black
| | reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a
book
| about
| | how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
| doesn't
| | have to live in Africa.
| |
| | You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a
columnist
| (not reporter) for
| | the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
| reparations.
| |
| | But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
| better off in America
| | than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express
gratitude
| about his
| | ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns
that
| atrocity in the
| | strongest terms.
| |
| | The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
| could be "glad" his
| | ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your
own
| twisted, racist,
| | slavery-rationalizing imagination.
| |
| | --Gary
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.

Being glad to live in America rather than Africa is completely different
from the obscene idea of being glad that one's ancestors were enslaved. By
analogy, a Jewish American whose ancestors came here to escape the Nazi
Holocaust can certainly be glad to be living in America, but it would be
obscene for him to be glad that the Holocaust occurred.

A responsible person would not publicly ascribe such a horrific sentiment to
an African American author without bothering to verify and document that his
recollection is correct. But you apparently fail to appreciate how horrific
the sentiment really is (perhaps because you still have a warm, fuzzy
Confederate impression of slavery).

Anyone not blinded by right-wing ideology would find it immediately apparent
that if a respected black author had written a book saying what you think
you remember reading, the resulting outcry would have been enormous, and
memorable to all of us. It didn't happen.

--Gary

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.

Keith Richburg
http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
(Out of Africa: A Black Man Confronts Africa).

He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier. I
don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
somebody will remember the name of the book or the author
and then you can apologize to me.

Drescher? Ha, you're funny!

--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I can't think of his name right now, but there is a black
reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book about
how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he doesn't
have to live in Africa.


I'm not aware of any book like that, but Walter Williams has often pointed
out that the descendants of slaves in the US today benefited from the slave
trade because their ancestors were removed from Africa and brought to what
is now the US.

"Skywise" wrote in message
...
I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not.

Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave
owners stole from the black population? Thought so.

Remember the past, yes, but get over it.

Ironically, the point of this subthread is that the right-wing
slavery-apologists here on r.a.p. haven't gotten over losing the Civil War.

--Gary