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"Skywise" wrote in message
... I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved? Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not. Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so. Remember the past, yes, but get over it. Ironically, the point of this subthread is that the right-wing slavery-apologists here on r.a.p. haven't gotten over losing the Civil War. --Gary |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote: Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so. The son must pay for the sins of the father. Of course. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
... In article , "Gary Drescher" wrote: Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so. The son must pay for the sins of the father. Of course. Nope. But if your father stole my father's car and you inherited it, I could reasonably sue you for it (even though the theft wasn't your fault). --Gary |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote: The son must pay for the sins of the father. Of course. Nope. But if your father stole my father's car and you inherited it, I could reasonably sue you for it (even though the theft wasn't your fault). When does the chain break? btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you winning is a different matter. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
... btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you winning is a different matter. If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it be just for me to recover it from you? When does the chain break? When the car is returned to its rightful owners. --Gary |
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![]() "Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you winning is a different matter. If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it be just for me to recover it from you? That car is at least 140 years old. Get over it. When does the chain break? When the car is returned to its rightful owners. --Gary |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote: If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it be just for me to recover it from you? If I am innocent, why would it be just to punish me? The harm was done to your father by my father. You have no right to punish me. When does the chain break? When the car is returned to its rightful owners. see above. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
... In article , "Gary Drescher" wrote: If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it be just for me to recover it from you? If I am innocent, why would it be just to punish me? It would not. That's why I didn't suggest it. (For example, I did not suggest that you be imprisoned for the theft; *that* would be an appropriate punishment for whoever is guilty of the theft.) Seeking to return stolen property to its rightful owner is not legally or morally the same as seeking to punish whoever had received the stolen property, innocently or not. (Of course, if you knew or had reason to know that it was stolen, then you're not so innocent at all.) --Gary |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
news ![]() "Skywise" wrote in message ... I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved? Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not. Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so. Oh! This logic is just incredible! Somewhere along the line in the past one of our ancesters probably killed someone in cold blood. So, since you, me, and anyone else probably benefitted from this murder, then we should report to the nearest gallows to await our hanging. Or, if you'd prefer, we can mutually blow each others brains out in a suicide pact to repay for the murder commited by our ancestors. I did not enslave anyone. For that matter, none of my recent ancesters did either, for they didn't even arrive in America until after slavery was abolished. So how can I possibly be responsible for the slavery of blacks in America? Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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"Skywise" wrote in message
... Somewhere along the line in the past one of our ancesters probably killed someone in cold blood. So, since you, me, and anyone else probably benefitted from this murder, then we should report to the nearest gallows to await our hanging. You apparently fail to grasp the distinction between punishment (which no one in this debate advocates) and civil reparation (returning something to its rightful owner). ...So how can I possibly be responsible for the slavery of blacks in America? No one ever suggested you were. (See the above distinction.) --Gary |
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