Those *dangerous* Korean War relics

Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct thought
in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
black
| reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book
about
| how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
doesn't
| have to live in Africa.
|
| You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a columnist
(not reporter) for
| the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
reparations.
|
| But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
better off in America
| than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express gratitude
about his
| ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns that
atrocity in the
| strongest terms.
|
| The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
could be "glad" his
| ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your own
twisted, racist,
| slavery-rationalizing imagination.
|
| --Gary
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:Aprgg.26077$ZW3.7447@dukeread04...
Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct thought
in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.

Human memory distorts recollections in the direction of our expectations. So
if you harbor the disgusting expectation that African Americans are (or
should be) "glad" their ancestors were enslaved, then your memory of what
you think you read will be influenced in that direction.

If the book passage you believe you read (and cited approvingly) were really
to exist, then you or someone else here would be able to find it. It would
be such an outrageous sentiment that a Google search would easily uncover
copious discussion of it.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
black
| reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a book
about
| how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
doesn't
| have to live in Africa.
|
| You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a columnist
(not reporter) for
| the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
reparations.
|
| But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
better off in America
| than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express gratitude
about his
| ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns that
atrocity in the
| strongest terms.
|
| The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
could be "glad" his
| ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your own
twisted, racist,
| slavery-rationalizing imagination.
|
| --Gary
|
|

Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.
He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier. I
don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
somebody will remember the name of the book or the author
and then you can apologize to me.



--
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ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:Aprgg.26077$ZW3.7447@dukeread04...
| Not Sowell and the "glad" statement was his direct
thought
| in the book and when I saw him on C-SPAN.
|
| Human memory distorts recollections in the direction of
our expectations. So
| if you harbor the disgusting expectation that African
Americans are (or
| should be) "glad" their ancestors were enslaved, then your
memory of what
| you think you read will be influenced in that direction.
|
| If the book passage you believe you read (and cited
approvingly) were really
| to exist, then you or someone else here would be able to
find it. It would
| be such an outrageous sentiment that a Google search would
easily uncover
| copious discussion of it.
|
| --Gary
|
| "Gary Drescher" wrote in
message
| . ..
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:tcqgg.26072$ZW3.9062@dukeread04...
| | I can't think of his name right now, but there is a
| black
| | reporter for the Wall Street Journal who wrote a
book
| about
| | how glad his ancestors were slaves in America, so he
| doesn't
| | have to live in Africa.
| |
| | You are presumably thinking of Thomas Sowell, a
columnist
| (not reporter) for
| | the Wall Street Journal who has argued against
| reparations.
| |
| | But while Sowell does mention that (of course) he is
| better off in America
| | than in Africa, he certainly does *not* express
gratitude
| about his
| | ancestors' captivity; on the contrary, he condemns
that
| atrocity in the
| | strongest terms.
| |
| | The idea that even the most conservative black scholar
| could be "glad" his
| | ancestors were enslaved is purely a product of your
own
| twisted, racist,
| | slavery-rationalizing imagination.
| |
| | --Gary
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.

Being glad to live in America rather than Africa is completely different
from the obscene idea of being glad that one's ancestors were enslaved. By
analogy, a Jewish American whose ancestors came here to escape the Nazi
Holocaust can certainly be glad to be living in America, but it would be
obscene for him to be glad that the Holocaust occurred.

A responsible person would not publicly ascribe such a horrific sentiment to
an African American author without bothering to verify and document that his
recollection is correct. But you apparently fail to appreciate how horrific
the sentiment really is (perhaps because you still have a warm, fuzzy
Confederate impression of slavery).

Anyone not blinded by right-wing ideology would find it immediately apparent
that if a respected black author had written a book saying what you think
you remember reading, the resulting outcry would have been enormous, and
memorable to all of us. It didn't happen.

--Gary

Gee, I do remember exactly what the author said, in context.
I just didn't bother to "document" his name, age, place of
birth and DNA.

Since did not make up what he said and this is neither a
court of law or a college manuscript, my word is all that I
need. If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
research the matter and print your results. However, so far
your comments are just YOUR paranoid guilt ridden feelings
and interpretation.



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
| Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details,
but
| my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
| The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was
very
| glad he didn't have to live there.
|
| Being glad to live in America rather than Africa is
completely different
| from the obscene idea of being glad that one's ancestors
were enslaved. By
| analogy, a Jewish American whose ancestors came here to
escape the Nazi
| Holocaust can certainly be glad to be living in America,
but it would be
| obscene for him to be glad that the Holocaust occurred.
|
| A responsible person would not publicly ascribe such a
horrific sentiment to
| an African American author without bothering to verify and
document that his
| recollection is correct. But you apparently fail to
appreciate how horrific
| the sentiment really is (perhaps because you still have a
warm, fuzzy
| Confederate impression of slavery).
|
| Anyone not blinded by right-wing ideology would find it
immediately apparent
| that if a respected black author had written a book saying
what you think
| you remember reading, the resulting outcry would have been
enormous, and
| memorable to all of us. It didn't happen.
|
| --Gary
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
newsAtgg.26330$ZW3.14292@dukeread04...
Gee, I do remember exactly what the author said, in context.
Since did not make up what he said and this is neither a
court of law or a college manuscript, my word is all that I
need.

Intellectual integrity should not be restricted to courts and colleges. It
is deeply slanderous to claim that a respected black author had written "a
book about how glad he is his ancestors were slaves", and deeply
irresponsible to make such a defamatory claim without even trying to verify
it. (Of course, a sufficiently racist person might not even realize that the
claim is defamatory, and thus might not realize that special care is
warranted before making the claim.)

If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
research the matter and print your results.

That's ludicrous. It's impossible to prove that an alleged passage did *not*
appear in some unnamed book by some unnamed author. The burden of proof is
obviously on the person who claims it *did* appear.

But your worldview is so impervious to reality that you are able to continue
to believe that your recollection is accurate even if neither you nor anyone
else is ever able to find the outrageous book you claim to have read. Thus,
in your imaginary world, there are respectable African American authors who
are grateful for slavery, and your inability to actually find such an author
does nothing to undermine your self-serving belief.

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
newsAtgg.26330$ZW3.14292@dukeread04...

Gee, I do remember exactly what the author said, in context.
Since did not make up what he said and this is neither a
court of law or a college manuscript, my word is all that I
need.


Intellectual integrity should not be restricted to courts and colleges. It
is deeply slanderous to claim that a respected black author had written "a
book about how glad he is his ancestors were slaves", and deeply
irresponsible to make such a defamatory claim without even trying to verify
it. (Of course, a sufficiently racist person might not even realize that the
claim is defamatory, and thus might not realize that special care is
warranted before making the claim.)


If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
research the matter and print your results.


That's ludicrous. It's impossible to prove that an alleged passage did *not*
appear in some unnamed book by some unnamed author. The burden of proof is
obviously on the person who claims it *did* appear.

But your worldview is so impervious to reality that you are able to continue
to believe that your recollection is accurate even if neither you nor anyone
else is ever able to find the outrageous book you claim to have read. Thus,
in your imaginary world, there are respectable African American authors who
are grateful for slavery, and your inability to actually find such an author
does nothing to undermine your self-serving belief.

--Gary

I saw the same interview on C-SPAN several years ago. Mr. Macklin's
recollection is not inaccurate. I don't remember the exact words,
phrases, and punctuation used, but Mr. Macklin correctly posted the gist
of it here. Before challenging one's "worldview" and making remarks
questioning "intellectual integrity," it's surely best to know what you
are talking about.

You're so full of crap, YOU make assumptions and condemn
others without anything but your opinion and guilt. FO.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| newsAtgg.26330$ZW3.14292@dukeread04...
| Gee, I do remember exactly what the author said, in
context.
| Since did not make up what he said and this is neither a
| court of law or a college manuscript, my word is all
that I
| need.
|
| Intellectual integrity should not be restricted to courts
and colleges. It
| is deeply slanderous to claim that a respected black
author had written "a
| book about how glad he is his ancestors were slaves", and
deeply
| irresponsible to make such a defamatory claim without even
trying to verify
| it. (Of course, a sufficiently racist person might not
even realize that the
| claim is defamatory, and thus might not realize that
special care is
| warranted before making the claim.)
|
| If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
| research the matter and print your results.
|
| That's ludicrous. It's impossible to prove that an alleged
passage did *not*
| appear in some unnamed book by some unnamed author. The
burden of proof is
| obviously on the person who claims it *did* appear.
|
| But your worldview is so impervious to reality that you
are able to continue
| to believe that your recollection is accurate even if
neither you nor anyone
| else is ever able to find the outrageous book you claim to
have read. Thus,
| in your imaginary world, there are respectable African
American authors who
| are grateful for slavery, and your inability to actually
find such an author
| does nothing to undermine your self-serving belief.
|
| --Gary
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in
newsAtgg.26330$ZW3.14292@dukeread04:

If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
research the matter and print your results.

Actually, Jim, the burden of proof is upon the claimant.

For example, if I claim to have seen a leprechaun, the
burden is on me to provide evidence of said observation.
Your statement would be like me asking for everyone else
to prove that I did not see it, which is impossible.

Brian
--
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Others, with better memories, have posted the verification.
The author of the book worked for the Washington Post, Ted
Stanson posted this...
"
I saw the same interview on C-SPAN several years ago. Mr.
Macklin's
recollection is not inaccurate. I don't remember the exact
words,
phrases, and punctuation used, but Mr. Macklin correctly
posted the gist
of it here. Before challenging one's "worldview" and making
remarks
questioning "intellectual integrity," it's surely best to
know what you
are talking about."

And Matt Barrow posted this...
"Keith Richburg
http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
(Out of Africa: A Black Man Confronts Africa)."


"Skywise" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in
| newsAtgg.26330$ZW3.14292@dukeread04:
|
| If you question my memory, you're certainly free to
| research the matter and print your results.
|
| Actually, Jim, the burden of proof is upon the claimant.
|
| For example, if I claim to have seen a leprechaun, the
| burden is on me to provide evidence of said observation.
| Your statement would be like me asking for everyone else
| to prove that I did not see it, which is impossible.
|
| Brian
| --
| http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy,
Skepticism
| Seismic FAQ:
http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
| Quake "predictions":
http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
| Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?