Those *dangerous* Korean War relics

Here's the title of the book in question: Out of America: A Black Man
Confronts Africa

And the author: Keith Richburg (He was Washington Post Reporter stationed
in Africa)

And how to buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/015...lance&n=283155

And the Google Search String I used:
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...frica+Reporter

A quote that sums up his feelings:

"Mr Richburg, who is now working for the Washington Post in Hong Kong, says
he is not condoning the evil of slavery, but insists that condemning it
should not blind blacks to the fact that good has emerged from it..."

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.

Keith Richburg
http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
(Out of Africa: A Black Man Confronts Africa).

He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier. I
don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
somebody will remember the name of the book or the author
and then you can apologize to me.

Drescher? Ha, you're funny!

--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

Thanks.




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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
| Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details,
but
| my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
| The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was
very
| glad he didn't have to live there.
|
| Keith Richburg
| http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799
|
|
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
| (Out of Africa: A Black Man Confronts Africa).
|
| He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
| before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier.
I
| don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
| time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
| somebody will remember the name of the book or the
author
| and then you can apologize to me.
|
| Drescher? Ha, you're funny!
|
| --
| Matt
| ---------------------
| Matthew W. Barrow
| Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
| Montrose, CO (MTJ)
|
|

I see it was the Washington Post and not the WSJ.


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
| Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details,
but
| my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
| The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was
very
| glad he didn't have to live there.
|
| Keith Richburg
| http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799
|
|
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
| (Out of Africa: A Black Man Confronts Africa).
|
| He was interviewed by Brian Lamb, this would have been
| before 9/11/2001, could have been several years earlier.
I
| don't remember his name and don't care to spend a lot of
| time on Google looking for the results. As you say,
| somebody will remember the name of the book or the
author
| and then you can apologize to me.
|
| Drescher? Ha, you're funny!
|
| --
| Matt
| ---------------------
| Matthew W. Barrow
| Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
| Montrose, CO (MTJ)
|
|

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details, but
my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or expectations.
The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was very
glad he didn't have to live there.

Keith Richburg
http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305

Yes, Richburg says he is glad his ancestors came to America. But that is not
the same as his being glad they were enslaved (even if that is in fact how
they got here).

As I pointed out earlier, a Jewish person might similarly be glad his
ancestors ended up in America, but without thereby being grateful for the
holocaust that forced their migration. There's a *huge* difference.

It would be monstrous for a person to be glad that a massive atrocity
occurred just because, as a side effect, it left him personally better off
than he believes he otherwise would have been (not to mention that the
comparison is nonsensical--if history had gone differently than it actually
did, then no one would exist who actually exists now; there'd be an entirely
different set of people).

Above all, what's astonishing is for someone here to *approvingly* cite that
inaccurately-recalled monstrous sentiment while trying to defend the
extremist right-wing position that America was a "free country" until 1864
but not afterward.

--Gary

I stated that freedom was lost in 1968. Also, I was not
defending any "right-wing extremist" position. I did
recount the interview and the answer that the author made, I
was not characterizing his answer to a question, The
author, Keith Richburg said he was thankful his ancestors
had been brought to this country so he never had to live in
Africa. I would say that "brought to" is slavery.

I'm sure that if I had the money and time to waste, I could
get a transcript or even the tape of the interview. But I
will just drop the issue since it isn't worth my time to
argue about what you think.



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
| "Matt Barrow" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
| news:rXrgg.26079$ZW3.1474@dukeread04...
| Gee, I'm sorry that I didn't write out all the details,
but
| my memory is accurate. I have no guilt or
expectations.
| The reporter had been on assignment in Africa and was
very
| glad he didn't have to live there.
|
| Keith Richburg
| http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=799
|
|
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...067579-4302305
|
| Yes, Richburg says he is glad his ancestors came to
America. But that is not
| the same as his being glad they were enslaved (even if
that is in fact how
| they got here).
|
| As I pointed out earlier, a Jewish person might similarly
be glad his
| ancestors ended up in America, but without thereby being
grateful for the
| holocaust that forced their migration. There's a *huge*
difference.
|
| It would be monstrous for a person to be glad that a
massive atrocity
| occurred just because, as a side effect, it left him
personally better off
| than he believes he otherwise would have been (not to
mention that the
| comparison is nonsensical--if history had gone differently
than it actually
| did, then no one would exist who actually exists now;
there'd be an entirely
| different set of people).
|
| Above all, what's astonishing is for someone here to
*approvingly* cite that
| inaccurately-recalled monstrous sentiment while trying to
defend the
| extremist right-wing position that America was a "free
country" until 1864
| but not afterward.
|
| --Gary
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:WKCgg.26391$ZW3.12835@dukeread04...
I stated that freedom was lost in 1968.

More like 1868 as the aftermath of the War of Northern Aggression ... :~)

Also, I was not
defending any "right-wing extremist" position. I did
recount the interview and the answer that the author made, I
was not characterizing his answer to a question, The
author, Keith Richburg said he was thankful his ancestors
had been brought to this country so he never had to live in
Africa. I would say that "brought to" is slavery.

Oddly, there have been several times more immigrants in the past 50 years
from Africa than were brought as slaves in the early 19th century.

I'm sure that if I had the money and time to waste, I could
get a transcript or even the tape of the interview. But I
will just drop the issue since it isn't worth my time to
argue about what you think.

I'll leave that last word alone as his typical hysterics and symantics belie
the word "think" (I can just imagine him ripping the arms off his chair).

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:WKCgg.26391$ZW3.12835@dukeread04...
I stated that freedom was lost in 1968.

Yes, my post was in reply to Matt, who said the US ceased to be a free
country in 1864. (Similarly, the Civil War was the earliest event Steven
listed when asked to explain his remark that the US had ceased to be a free
country.)

Also, I was not
defending any "right-wing extremist" position. I did
recount the interview and the answer that the author made, I
was not characterizing his answer to a question,

You cited his extremist position (as you remembered it) in support of an
argument against reparations, and you cited it without any expressed
reservations. That context makes it an "approving citation", as that term is
ordinarily used. (But yes, merely arguing against reparations is by no means
an extremist or inherently racist position.)

--Gary

Jim Macklin wrote:
I stated that freedom was lost in 1968. Also, I was not
defending any "right-wing extremist" position. I did
recount the interview and the answer that the author made, I
was not characterizing his answer to a question, The
author, Keith Richburg said he was thankful his ancestors
had been brought to this country so he never had to live in
Africa. I would say that "brought to" is slavery.

I'm sure that if I had the money and time to waste, I could
get a transcript or even the tape of the interview. But I
will just drop the issue since it isn't worth my time to
argue about what you think.


More to the point, the transcript does not support
what you said.

I'm glad my ancestors were brought to this country, and
that has nothing to do wiht them being enslaved.

--

FF