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Old June 4th 06, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:

Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the
slave
owners stole from the black population? Thought so.


The son must pay for the sins of the father. Of course.


Nope. But if your father stole my father's car and you inherited it, I could
reasonably sue you for it (even though the theft wasn't your fault).

--Gary


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Old June 4th 06, 03:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:

The son must pay for the sins of the father. Of course.


Nope. But if your father stole my father's car and you inherited it, I could
reasonably sue you for it (even though the theft wasn't your fault).


When does the chain break?

btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you
winning is a different matter.

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Old June 4th 06, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you
winning is a different matter.


If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it
be just for me to recover it from you?

When does the chain break?


When the car is returned to its rightful owners.

--Gary


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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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btw - of course you can sue. Whether there would be justise in you
winning is a different matter.


If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't
it be just for me to recover it from you?


That car is at least 140 years old. Get over it.

When does the chain break?


When the car is returned to its rightful owners.

--Gary




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Old June 4th 06, 05:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:

If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't it
be just for me to recover it from you?


If I am innocent, why would it be just to punish me?

The harm was done to your father by my father. You have no
right to punish me.



When does the chain break?


When the car is returned to its rightful owners.


see above.

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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:

If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it, wouldn't
it
be just for me to recover it from you?


If I am innocent, why would it be just to punish me?


It would not. That's why I didn't suggest it. (For example, I did not
suggest that you be imprisoned for the theft; *that* would be an appropriate
punishment for whoever is guilty of the theft.)

Seeking to return stolen property to its rightful owner is not legally or
morally the same as seeking to punish whoever had received the stolen
property, innocently or not. (Of course, if you knew or had reason to know
that it was stolen, then you're not so innocent at all.)

--Gary


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Old June 5th 06, 05:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Gary Drescher" wrote:

If your father had stolen my father's car and you inherited it,
wouldn't it
be just for me to recover it from you?


If I am innocent, why would it be just to punish me?


It would not. That's why I didn't suggest it. (For example, I did not
suggest that you be imprisoned for the theft; *that* would be an
appropriate punishment for whoever is guilty of the theft.)

Seeking to return stolen property to its rightful owner is not legally
or morally the same as seeking to punish whoever had received the stolen
property, innocently or not. (Of course, if you knew or had reason to
know that it was stolen, then you're not so innocent at all.)

--Gary


Returning stolen property to it's rightful owner is one thing. But
we are talking about you and me today paying blacks of today some
sort of punitive reparations for what happened over a hundred years
ago by people and to people who are long dead.

Brian
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Returning stolen property to it's rightful owner is one thing. But
we are talking about you and me today paying blacks of today some
sort of punitive reparations for what happened over a hundred years
ago by people and to people who are long dead.


Who is talking about *punitive* reparations?

--Gary


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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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Returning stolen property to it's rightful owner is one thing. But
we are talking about you and me today paying blacks of today some
sort of punitive reparations for what happened over a hundred years
ago by people and to people who are long dead.


Don't try using rationality on an irrational dupe.


 




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