Those *dangerous* Korean War relics

Gary Drescher wrote:

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I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not.


Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the slave
owners stole from the black population? Thought so.

And both the blacks and the whites stole it from the native Americans,
so if anyone is owed compensation.... :-)


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:

"Skywise" wrote in message
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I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not.


Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the
slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so.

And both the blacks and the whites stole it from the native Americans, so
if anyone is owed compensation.... :-)

And they stole it from...

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:


"Skywise" wrote in message
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I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not.


Have you directly or indirectly inherited some of the wealth that the
slave owners stole from the black population? Thought so.

And both the blacks and the whites stole it from the native Americans, so
if anyone is owed compensation.... :-)


And they stole it from...

The neat thing is that most native Americans didn't consider land
something to be owned. They consider themselves essentially stewards of
the land. Personally, I think there is a lot to be said for their way
of thinking vs. the European way.

So, I don't think the native Americans stole anything, they were simply
caretakers and users of the natural resources. The Europeans stole this
from the native Americans, just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


Matt

Matt Whiting writes:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt
Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from
Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.

You need to read up on the history of the slave trade more. My
understanding is that the Europeans simply became a new market for a
well-established trade, run by various African tribes and quite a lot
of Arabs.
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

Matt Whiting writes:


Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from
Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


You need to read up on the history of the slave trade more. My
understanding is that the Europeans simply became a new market for a
well-established trade, run by various African tribes and quite a lot
of Arabs.

Probably should, but I'm not planning on it. I just don't care that
much about what happened 100-300 years ago. I'm more concerned about
what will happen in the next 100 years.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


In Africa the traders were mostly African. A number of Americans
sailed the 'slave triangle'. They would take slaves from Africa to
the Southern US or (maybe) the Carribean, take cotton, tobacco
or mollases to New England, and then take manufactured goods
to Africa.

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Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


In Africa the traders were mostly African. A number of Americans
sailed the 'slave triangle'. They would take slaves from Africa to
the Southern US or (maybe) the Carribean, take cotton, tobacco
or mollases to New England, and then take manufactured goods
to Africa.


So the Americans were basically the customers and the UPS of the day.

And to the parent post that said, "they were still buying stolen (kidnapped)
"goods." "Stolen" is a legal term. At the time there wasn't a law against
the slave trade so they weren't stolen they were bought and sold in
accordance with the law of the time.