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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


Matt

Matt Whiting writes:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt
Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from
Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.

You need to read up on the history of the slave trade more. My
understanding is that the Europeans simply became a new market for a
well-established trade, run by various African tribes and quite a lot
of Arabs.
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Matt Whiting writes:


Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from
Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


You need to read up on the history of the slave trade more. My
understanding is that the Europeans simply became a new market for a
well-established trade, run by various African tribes and quite a lot
of Arabs.

Probably should, but I'm not planning on it. I just don't care that
much about what happened 100-300 years ago. I'm more concerned about
what will happen in the next 100 years.


Matt

Matt Whiting writes:

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

Matt Whiting writes:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt

Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from
Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.
You need to read up on the history of the slave trade more. My
understanding is that the Europeans simply became a new market for a
well-established trade, run by various African tribes and quite a lot
of Arabs.

Probably should, but I'm not planning on it. I just don't care that
much about what happened 100-300 years ago. I'm more concerned about
what will happen in the next 100 years.

"My interest is in the future, because I'm going to spend the rest of
my life there." Reasonable enough.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

Matt Whiting wrote:

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Probably should, but I'm not planning on it. I just don't care that
much about what happened 100-300 years ago. I'm more concerned about
what will happen in the next 100 years.


Remember what the Singer Carlos Santana said:

"Those who do not learn from hsitory are doomed to repeat it."

Or was that the philospoher George Santayana?

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FF

Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


In Africa the traders were mostly African. A number of Americans
sailed the 'slave triangle'. They would take slaves from Africa to
the Southern US or (maybe) the Carribean, take cotton, tobacco
or mollases to New England, and then take manufactured goods
to Africa.

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FF

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Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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just as they stole Africans to use as slaves.


Matt


Actually the Americans bought the slaves. In many cases from Africans.

I said Europeans, not Americans. The Americans may have bought them,
but they were still buying stolen (kidnapped) "goods."

I believe most of the slave traders were European, but I'm sure some
enterprising Africans got into the action as well.


In Africa the traders were mostly African. A number of Americans
sailed the 'slave triangle'. They would take slaves from Africa to
the Southern US or (maybe) the Carribean, take cotton, tobacco
or mollases to New England, and then take manufactured goods
to Africa.


So the Americans were basically the customers and the UPS of the day.

And to the parent post that said, "they were still buying stolen (kidnapped)
"goods." "Stolen" is a legal term. At the time there wasn't a law against
the slave trade so they weren't stolen they were bought and sold in
accordance with the law of the time.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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And to the parent post that said, "they were still buying stolen
(kidnapped) "goods." "Stolen" is a legal term. At the time there wasn't a
law against the slave trade so they weren't stolen they were bought and
sold in accordance with the law of the time.

"Stolen" is a moral as well as legal term. Legalized theft can still
constitute stealing, in the moral sense.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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And to the parent post that said, "they were still buying stolen
(kidnapped) "goods." "Stolen" is a legal term. At the time there wasn't a
law against the slave trade so they weren't stolen they were bought and
sold in accordance with the law of the time.

"Stolen" is a moral as well as legal term. Legalized theft can still
constitute stealing, in the moral sense.


But this thread is suggesting a legal remedy. If we are going to get money
and lawyers involved we have to stick to the legal use of the term.

If we are talking about the moral issues a heart felt apology should be
enough.