Those *dangerous* Korean War relics

"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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Who is talking about *punitive* reparations?

I was, from the very first post I made in this thread. It
now appears our whole argument is based on your misreading
of my post.

No, it's apparently based on your own misreading of your own post. Nothing
in your original post referred to *punitive* reparations.

More importantly, no significant participant in the national debate (to my
knowledge) has ever advocated *punitive* reparations, so if would make no
sense for you to be "sick and tired" of such "demands". (And by the way,
since no one here had been advocating any sort of reparation until you
brought it up, it was a peculiar complaint for you to issue here in the
first place.)

For your reference, here's the text of your orginal post:

I'll second that. I'm sick and tired of the descendents of
the slaves demanding recompense (in whatever form) from the
descendents of the slave owners. Were you personally enslaved?
Were you personally a slave owner? I thought not. Remember the
past, yes, but get over it.

See? No mention of *punitive* recompense, just "recompense". There is a
clear legal and moral distinction between compensation and "punitive
damages", with entirely different criteria for when each is warranted.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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Who is talking about *punitive* reparations?

I was, from the very first post I made in this thread. It
now appears our whole argument is based on your misreading
of my post.

No, it's apparently based on your own misreading of your own post. Nothing
in your original post referred to *punitive* reparations.

Why the **** else would there be reparations if not to punish?
Specific to this issue, slavery in America pre Civil War, what
tangible property is to be returned? What other reason would
there be (re slavery) for white people alive today to give
*anything* to black people alive today? The only thing taken
away from the blacks was their freedom. That has already been
returned to them. Anything more is punative.

Brian
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("Skywise" wrote)
Why the [#%&*] else would there be reparations if not to punish?


There are two regular posters who (sometimes) use the F'enheimer.

Maybe that number is now three?

Enjoyed the 'heck' out of your post, otherwise.


Montblack-not-blue

"Montblack" wrote in
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("Skywise" wrote)
Why the [#%&*] else would there be reparations if not to punish?


There are two regular posters who (sometimes) use the F'enheimer.

Maybe that number is now three?

Enjoyed the 'heck' out of your post, otherwise.

I may talk that way at times in real life (depending on who's
listening), but in written text I try to refrain from it's use.

However, there are times when I feel it necessary to indulge in
such language in order to bring focus to the point.

Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?

Brian
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

("Skywise" wrote)
Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?


http://www.erenkrantz.com/Humor/SevenDirtyWords.shtml

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/filthywords.html

2nd grade - 1968:
"I know a word that starts with "F" and ends in "UCK" - Firetruck" ...and I
still got my mouth washed out with soap!

I should have known better. Shouting "COX ...trainer" and "COX ...airplane
gas" in the backyard, at the top of my lungs, garnered the same results the
year before. :-o


Montblack

Montblack wrote:
("Skywise" wrote)
Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?


http://www.erenkrantz.com/Humor/SevenDirtyWords.shtml

That's bogus man, 'tits' doesn't even belong on the list!

--

FF

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Montblack wrote:
("Skywise" wrote)
Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?


http://www.erenkrantz.com/Humor/SevenDirtyWords.shtml

That's bogus man, 'tits' doesn't even belong on the list!

How about the five words that can't be said on the floor
of Congress?

nipple
****
****
****
damn

Interestingly, I had a problem with a web forum a few months
back wherein I discovered that the message I was posting was
blocked because it "contains words that Congress may find
offensive". When I questioned the censorship and it was
confirmed by the board op, I then proceed to make a most
colorful post questioning the usefulness of filtering only
those five words. Of course, the message got deleted.

Truthfully, I was trying to open up the issue for discussion
and since the board op simply deleted the post, that told
me they were not interested in discussing the stupidity of
their filter system. Needless to say, I no longer post there.

Brian
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in
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("Skywise" wrote)
Why the [#%&*] else would there be reparations if not to punish?


There are two regular posters who (sometimes) use the F'enheimer.

Maybe that number is now three?

Enjoyed the 'heck' out of your post, otherwise.

I may talk that way at times in real life (depending on who's
listening), but in written text I try to refrain from it's use.

However, there are times when I feel it necessary to indulge in
such language in order to bring focus to the point.

Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?

"We're gonna f*&k you, sheriff...!!"

("Matt Barrow" wrote)
Have you ever heard George Carlin's little piece on the F word?

"We're gonna f*&k you, sheriff...!!"


:-)


Montblack

"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in
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No, it's apparently based on your own misreading of your own post.
Nothing
in your original post referred to *punitive* reparations.

Why the **** else would there be reparations if not to punish?
Specific to this issue, slavery in America pre Civil War, what
tangible property is to be returned? What other reason would
there be (re slavery) for white people alive today to give
*anything* to black people alive today? The only thing taken
away from the blacks was their freedom. That has already been
returned to them. Anything more is punative.

You're being intentionally obtuse. One thing that was stolen from the slaves
(and thereby from their descendents' inheritance) was the massive value of
the slaves' forced labor; that was, after all, the whole point of slavery.
And advocates of reparations explicitly make that argument.

So even if you had some basis for disagreeing with that argument for making
nonpunitive reparations, it *still* would not vindicate your assertion that
anyone has been arguing that *punitive* reparations would be warranted
against individuals alive today.

The question of reparations is complex, and others in this thread have
mentioned some factors that legitimately detract from the case for
reparations. But your "punitive" misconstrual is not among those factors;
rather, it is just a red herring.

--Gary