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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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For all practical purposes, they are the same. For a
personal airplane I'd want a Helio Courier on amphib floats.
To operate a even an old 200, you need about a million
dollars a year and you can't land on water.

Well, actually you can -- once.


If I had that kind of money, the Beechjet 400 is a delight
to fly.

I've been thinking of upgrading to a pair of turbines since the market for
used turboprops is really good now.

You can do some good deals on used used King Air 90's and others.

Suggestions? (No, I don't want the training load of an MU-2).

Possibilities:

Conquest
Cheyenne
Twin Commander

Others?

The King Air and AeroCommander are better airplanes than the
cheaply constructed Cessna and Piper. Raytheon is still in
business and the early King Airs is still supported by the
factory. I would limit the airplanes to the C or E 90,
since the really early airplanes have weaker pressurization
and some even use combustion heaters.
The F90 is a very nice airplane but will likely cost a
little more. The -2 airplanes with the improved engine
cowling are faster and have better anti-ice features.

Hey, if I win the lottery, maybe I can find some 15,000
pound floats and have a King Air bush plane.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:21%kg.49057$ZW3.32027@dukeread04...
| For all practical purposes, they are the same. For a
| personal airplane I'd want a Helio Courier on amphib
floats.
| To operate a even an old 200, you need about a million
| dollars a year and you can't land on water.
|
| Well, actually you can -- once.
|
|
| If I had that kind of money, the Beechjet 400 is a
delight
| to fly.
|
| I've been thinking of upgrading to a pair of turbines
since the market for
| used turboprops is really good now.
|
| You can do some good deals on used used King Air 90's and
others.
|
| Suggestions? (No, I don't want the training load of an
MU-2).
|
| Possibilities:
|
| Conquest
| Cheyenne
| Twin Commander
|
| Others?
|
|

Conquest
Cheyenne
Twin Commander

A friend bought a Cheyenne three years ago. He said it had the best
safety record and least operating costs as the reasons for its purchase.
His previous aircraft was a C310.

"john smith" wrote in message
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Conquest
Cheyenne
Twin Commander

A friend bought a Cheyenne three years ago. He said it had the best
safety record

Did he cite some information, or is that hearsay?

and least operating costs as the reasons for its purchase.

By the number's I've seen, that's true _per hour_, but not _per mile_.
A couple things that bother me about the Cheyenne are that I'm not sure
about Piper's long term viability (Do they even support the Cheyenne
anymore?), 2nd is that is uses P&W PT-6 engines that are fuel hogs.

If not for the P&W's, I'd go for a King Air C90B; there's a lot on the
market, they're fairly new (mid 1990's models) and comfortable, and there's
some damn good prices on the ones for sale.

The Conquest and Twin Commander use the Garrett (now Honeywell) TPE331 and
with a -10 conversion, has a 5000 hr TBO and very low fuel flow (less than
85 GPH for both engines). I undestand that Cessna no long supports the
Conquest and there are issues with the airframe.

I've also considered one of the single engine turboprops, but they all
fairly new nad thus still fairly expensive to buy used (well over $2
million).

The Twin Commnader has some very impressive performance and cost numbers,
but they're ugly, the cabin is pretty narrow, and the cockpit is hard to get
into if you're not limber and have a fat ass. The 695 series have had only
one fatal accident (guy flew directly into a major TS cell) which is
impressive consider they're almost exclusively "owner flown", and they land
at less than 90 kts.

His previous aircraft was a C310.

Did he say what else he looked at?


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

A friend bought a Cheyenne three years ago. He said it had the best
safety record

Did he cite some information, or is that hearsay?

He did research, but it has been so long ago that he told me, I do not
recall.


The Twin Commnader has some very impressive performance and cost numbers,
but they're ugly, the cabin is pretty narrow, and the cockpit is hard to get
into if you're not limber and have a fat ass. The 695 series have had only
one fatal accident (guy flew directly into a major TS cell) which is
impressive consider they're almost exclusively "owner flown", and they land
at less than 90 kts.

There is a fellow that has parked next to us at OSH the last three years
with a Commander 680. He says he can put anything in it with full fuel
and never be out of balance or overgross. He just had an all glass panel
installed last year.