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Emily wrote: How so? Yes, I consider NOT having a headset a safety issue, but ANR isn't necessary. Personally, I like being able to hear the engine. ANR doesn't affect your ability to hear the engine, but the claims that ANR protects your hearing better than passive attenuation have no proven scientific support. ANR is little more than a comfort/convenience item, and certainly not a safety item. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote: ANR doesn't affect your ability to hear the engine, but the claims that ANR protects your hearing better than passive attenuation have no proven scientific support. ANR is little more than a comfort/convenience item, and certainly not a safety item. When ANR allows me to hear the radio better, it most certainly contributes to safety. It's not flight-critical, but still... |
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it most certainly contributes to safety. It's not flight-critical, but still... Perzactly. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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real_name wrote: ANR doesn't affect your ability to hear the engine, but the claims that ANR protects your hearing better than passive attenuation have no proven scientific support. ANR is little more than a comfort/convenience item, and certainly not a safety item. When ANR allows me to hear the radio better, it most certainly contributes to safety. It's not flight-critical, but still... I don't know, I've flown quite a few different aircraft--include twins--and never had a problem hearing the radio using my passive DC 10-20 headset. I also don't consider the radio to be a safety item. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote: I also don't consider the radio to be a safety item. N12345 traffic 12 o'clock, opposite direction, same altitude While it's aviate, navigate, and THEN communicate, there are most definitely hazards mitigated by the radio. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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In article , Jonathan Goodish wrote: I also don't consider the radio to be a safety item. N12345 traffic 12 o'clock, opposite direction, same altitude You must be using a pretty ****ty passive headset if you can't make that out. |
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Emily wrote: I also don't consider the radio to be a safety item. N12345 traffic 12 o'clock, opposite direction, same altitude You must be using a pretty ****ty passive headset if you can't make that out. I only claimed that I can hear the radio *better* with ANR. Not once did I claim I couldn't hear. YMMV. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Bob Noel wrote: N12345 traffic 12 o'clock, opposite direction, same altitude You must be using a pretty ****ty passive headset if you can't make that out. I only claimed that I can hear the radio *better* with ANR. Not once did I claim I couldn't hear. YMMV. Your implication seems to be that hearing the radio "better" somehow makes you "safer" over just being able to hear the radio. That's nonsense. Some of you folks should have marketing jobs with the ANR headset manufacturers. I'm not saying that ANR is a bad thing, but it's certainly way, way, way over-hyped and the benefits are greatly exaggerated. JKG |
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Bob Noel wrote: In article , Jonathan Goodish wrote: I also don't consider the radio to be a safety item. N12345 traffic 12 o'clock, opposite direction, same altitude While it's aviate, navigate, and THEN communicate, there are most definitely hazards mitigated by the radio. Not really. Radio position reports are often missing, or they are simply incorrect as pilots don't give accurate position reports. I NEVER rely on radio position reports for anything. Nothing provides the level safety of two (or more) eyeballs. At most, all radio position reports do is remind you to do what you should be doing anyway--looking for traffic. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote:
Not really. Radio position reports are often missing, or they are simply incorrect as pilots don't give accurate position reports. I NEVER rely on radio position reports for anything. I really like when you call someone who just gave a position report for more detail or clarification, and they never answer. G Just recently, I heard someone give MY exact position, including altitude! Three unanswered requests later, I finally visually picked them out on the opposite side of the airport. They meant 4 miles EAST, instead of 4 miles WEST. Boy, did I sit up and take notice when I heard their call. |
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