Which DC Headphone is best choice?

Also, ANR enables you to hear ATC much more clearly.

In my 25 years of flying with my DC H10-40's, I have never had any
difficulty hear ATC due to ambiant noise.

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:46:16 GMT, john smith wrote:

Also, ANR enables you to hear ATC much more clearly.

In my 25 years of flying with my DC H10-40's, I have never had any
difficulty hear ATC due to ambiant noise.

Now guys don't get too hung up on ANR please :-)

I'm sure it's very successful but like Emily said they're expensive
and use batteries which adds another weak point in the system. I've
been flying for 15 years and don't find a problem with passive
headsets, except for the discomfort due to pressure on the side of my
head sometimes and the fact I wear glasses. Understanding ATC is not a
problem unless they have a problem. Usually talking too quiet, to loud
and causing overload or UK military who at times are readability 2-3
(and I've told them they are!).

Most of my UK flights are only up to 3 hours and my longest flight was
from Stella Maris in the Bahamas to Fort Pierce in Florida. With
strong headwinds that was 4.75 hours and I don't remember a problem
with the headset. Not sure my Wife would agree but she uses a
Sigtronics headset.

Going back to my initial request I'm looking for a reasonable cost
headset and would appreciate helpful good and bad points as were
originally made.

I think I prefer Gel earseals but I see 'Pilot, PA-1171T' say
leatherette soft seals - what is that and how do they compare?

Thanks,
David
Scotland UK

In article ,
wrote:

I think I prefer Gel earseals but I see 'Pilot, PA-1171T' say
leatherette soft seals - what is that and how do they compare?

Check out the Marv Golden's, also.

This from rec.aviation.piloting...

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl....oduct_id=10370

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:43:29 GMT, john smith wrote:

This from rec.aviation.piloting...

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl....oduct_id=10370

Very nice but $799 is a lot to justify!

I was thinking nearer $200 or $300 if pushed.

From comments so far I think the follwoing are becoming my main
requirements:

Not too heavy
Electret Mike
Soft Gel ear seals
Wire mike boom, or partial wire, not fully flexible
External audio for checklist looks useful
Reasonable cost

In other words all singing-all dancing but cost nothing!!!!

David

wrote:

From comments so far I think the follwoing are becoming my main
requirements:

Not too heavy
Electret Mike
Soft Gel ear seals
Wire mike boom, or partial wire, not fully flexible
External audio for checklist looks useful
Reasonable cost

In other words all singing-all dancing but cost nothing!!!!


That sounds like the Sig S-40. I bought one as a student in '95 then
picked up a DC H10 13.4 about 3 years ago (I like the flex boom). My
only squawk about the DC is that I get a bit of a headache at the 2hr
mark.
After flying in the Pilatus with the Bose X I'm now spoiled, but
there's no freakin' way I'm spending $995 for a headset. Sennheiser's
HMEC 25 is as good as the Bose for $300 less, but it's still not a
cheap buy. ANR is less of an issue in a turboprop I suppose but for
pistons I think a good passive headset would be sufficient for most
folks' purposes.

You have to go try on the headsets. It's the only way to tell the right one for
you. Ideally go fly with one, to see how it works for real. To me, buying a
headset is personal, like clothes or stereo's. I wear jeans or shorts almost all
of the time, but I know people who don't own either.

I had a sergeant (who is an audiophile) tell my once you can't go by the spec's.
You have to go listen to them (stereo's). If you can't tell the different
between a $200 stereo and $1000 stereo, save yourself 800 bucks.

Go try the headset on and fly them. If the dealer won't let you, try borrowing
some from friends.




On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:08:13 +0100, wrote:


Going back to my initial request I'm looking for a reasonable cost
headset and would appreciate helpful good and bad points as were
originally made.

I think I prefer Gel earseals but I see 'Pilot, PA-1171T' say
leatherette soft seals - what is that and how do they compare?

Thanks,
David
Scotland UK

GeorgeC

like Emily said they're expensive
and use batteries which adds another weak point in the system.


No, they're not. and how are batteries a "weak point"?

I don't get hung up on ANR, I just hate it when people judge things
with no basis in facts. ;-)

My advice: Get a Marv Golden or Avshop branded version of the
Lightspeed QFR XCc for 250 $ or so. ANR, lightweight, cheap. If you're
in the UK, you can get them in Europe, too.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:45:21 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

like Emily said they're expensive
and use batteries which adds another weak point in the system.


No, they're not. and how are batteries a "weak point"?


I was thinking of extra wiring being vulnerable and possible flat
battery. However I now see some include auto-shut-off.

I don't get hung up on ANR, I just hate it when people judge things
with no basis in facts. ;-)


Sorry if you misundertood me, I wasn't getting at you personally, I
just wanted to stay on topic and not have a battle of passive/ANR.

My advice: Get a Marv Golden or Avshop branded version of the
Lightspeed QFR XCc for 250 $ or so. ANR, lightweight, cheap. If you're
in the UK, you can get them in Europe, too.

That's interesting. I haven't really looked at 'cheap' ANR but these
two are looking good. Now you've got me thinking again. My only
remaining reservation is reliability.

The reviews of the 'AvShop Design A450 ANR' seem favourable but some
problem with slipping and not gel seals also a comment about a problem
with the sliding volume controls.

The Marv Golden MG-ANR seems to have the edge but I would still like
to know more about the 'Leatherette Ear Seals'. It appears not ot have
auto-shut-off?

At $250 I'm much more interested as long as I'm not getting poor
quality at the expense of performance.

As for trying headsets I'd love to but I'm a long way from anywhere in
the UK that has a pilot shop. The only slight chance of trying
anything will be next year when I'm in Honolulu, but I don't hold out
much hope of a wide choice!

David

The reviews of the 'AvShop Design A450 ANR' seem favourable but some
problem with slipping and not gel seals also a comment about a problem
with the sliding volume controls.

The Marv Golden MG-ANR seems to have the edge but I would still like
to know more about the 'Leatherette Ear Seals'. It appears not ot have
auto-shut-off?



They should be the exact same headsets. The seals are made of ConFor
Foam which gets soft with body temperature. Seals quite well, IMHO. They
should have auto-shutoff, too.

As for trying: How about money-back guarantees?

If you like, send me an e-mail and I could send you some further
information pertaining to this.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)