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Vince wrote:
:I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ... Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the fighting. Or so you think. :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich, :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies. Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love Clinton and make statements like the preceding. Feh! -- "Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
Vince wrote: :I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ... Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the fighting. Or so you think. If the issue is what the world political view was, yes. Being a fireman give you lots of insights into fighting fires, but is not the same as understanding an arsonist. :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich, :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies. Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love Clinton and make statements like the preceding. Clinton was a draft dodger, Bush served honorably , but in such a way as to minimize his exposure to any real combat. Gore did the same. Kerry was actually in combat, but may have exaggerated his accomplishments. I had and have the deepest respect for the grunts who were at the broken bottle end of a stupid pointless war. Despite your sneering abuse it is entirely possible to combine respect for American fighting men and women and oppose the pointless wars Idiot politicians send them to. Vince |
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![]() "Fred J. McCall" wrote in message ... Vince wrote: :I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ... Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the fighting. Or so you think. :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich, :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies. Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love Clinton and make statements like the preceding. Your saying the "rich, well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies" isn't true? Feh! -- "Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:01:50 -0700, "Leadfoot"
wrote: Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love Clinton and make statements like the preceding. Your saying the "rich, well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies" isn't true? John Kerry didn't. George Bush did. Both were from wealthy families. So the picture is not exactly "clear." I got my wings in July, '69. I completed the multi-engine syllabus at NAS Corpus and was assigned to a VS squadron. I'd guess that a maybe half of my class and squadron mates were where they were because of moral or ethical problems with our S.E. Asia adventure. I personally know of two who later went to West Coast VS squadrons and flew Market Time. So they were willing to follow orders, they just didn't volunteer. Some may consider that some form of dishonor, I don't. I am personally aquainted with several peers who were children of fairly wealthy families who got drafted and went. I know of one who did the "chicken run" to Canada. I know one who got into the Guard (probably due to family influence). Again, the picture is quite mixed. Most conflicts have some elements of being "a rich man's war and poor man's fight." Bill Kambic Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão |
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Fred J. McCall schrieb:
Vince wrote: :I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ... Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the fighting. Or so you think. :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich, :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies. Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love Clinton and make statements like the preceding. Feh! -- "Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe I´m quite sure Goethe wrote "Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist." ;-) |
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Moritz Wünsch wrote:
:Fred J. McCall schrieb: : : Vince wrote: : : :I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ... : : Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the : fighting. Or so you think. : : :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich, : :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies. : : Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you : hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the : draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love : Clinton and make statements like the preceding. : : Feh! : : -- : "Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist." : --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe : :I´m quite sure Goethe wrote "Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist." ;-) Damned keyboard has a mind of its own.... -- "The way of the samurai is found in death. If by setting one's heart right every morning and evening, one is able to live as though his body were already dead, he gains freedom in The Way. His whole life will be without blame, and he will succeed in his calling." -- "Hagakure Kikigaki", Yamamoto Tsunetomo |
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