Bush needs to clean up his mess

Vince wrote:

:I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ...

Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the
fighting. Or so you think.

:I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich,
:well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies.

Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
Clinton and make statements like the preceding.

Feh!

--
"Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Fred J. McCall wrote:
Vince wrote:

:I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ...

Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the
fighting. Or so you think.

If the issue is what the world political view was, yes. Being a fireman
give you lots of insights into fighting fires, but is not the same as
understanding an arsonist.



:I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich,
:well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies.

Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
Clinton and make statements like the preceding.


Clinton was a draft dodger, Bush served honorably , but in such a way as
to minimize his exposure to any real combat. Gore did the same. Kerry
was actually in combat, but may have exaggerated his accomplishments.

I had and have the deepest respect for the grunts who were at the broken
bottle end of a stupid pointless war. Despite your sneering abuse it is
entirely possible to combine respect for American fighting men and women
and oppose the pointless wars Idiot politicians send them to.

Vince

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
Vince wrote:

:I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ...

Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the
fighting. Or so you think.

:I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich,
:well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies.

Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
Clinton and make statements like the preceding.

Your saying the "rich, well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles
and rice paddies" isn't true?



Feh!

--
"Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:01:50 -0700, "Leadfoot"
wrote:

Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
Clinton and make statements like the preceding.

Your saying the "rich, well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles
and rice paddies" isn't true?

John Kerry didn't. George Bush did. Both were from wealthy families.
So the picture is not exactly "clear."

I got my wings in July, '69. I completed the multi-engine syllabus at
NAS Corpus and was assigned to a VS squadron. I'd guess that a maybe
half of my class and squadron mates were where they were because of
moral or ethical problems with our S.E. Asia adventure. I personally
know of two who later went to West Coast VS squadrons and flew Market
Time. So they were willing to follow orders, they just didn't
volunteer. Some may consider that some form of dishonor, I don't.

I am personally aquainted with several peers who were children of
fairly wealthy families who got drafted and went. I know of one who
did the "chicken run" to Canada. I know one who got into the Guard
(probably due to family influence). Again, the picture is quite
mixed.

Most conflicts have some elements of being "a rich man's war and poor
man's fight."

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

Fred J. McCall schrieb:

Vince wrote:

:I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ...

Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the
fighting. Or so you think.

:I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich,
:well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies.

Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
Clinton and make statements like the preceding.

Feh!

--
"Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

I´m quite sure Goethe wrote "Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist." ;-)

Moritz Wünsch wrote:

:Fred J. McCall schrieb:
:
: Vince wrote:
:
: :I was inside the beltway all through the Vietnam War. ...
:
: Yes. And so you know more than the folks who were there doing the
: fighting. Or so you think.
:
: :I remember the skillful means by which the vast majority of the "rich,
: :well born OR emphasize OR able" avoided the Jungles and rice paddies.
:
: Yes, well everyone wasn't like you, Vinnie. I find it funny that you
: hate George Bush and try to smear him with claims that he 'dodged the
: draft' by going in the National Guard, while at the same time you love
: Clinton and make statements like the preceding.
:
: Feh!
:
: --
: "Der Fiege droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
: --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
:
:I´m quite sure Goethe wrote "Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist." ;-)

Damned keyboard has a mind of its own....

--
"The way of the samurai is found in death. If by setting one's heart
right every morning and evening, one is able to live as though his
body were already dead, he gains freedom in The Way. His whole life
will be without blame, and he will succeed in his calling."
-- "Hagakure Kikigaki", Yamamoto Tsunetomo