Nothing good about Ethanol

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Dylan Smith wrote:



It isn't scrubbing and it isn't trees. You need to look a little closer at
the science that's coming out of all this study of global warming. The
vast majority of CO2 is stored elsewhere, and the problem is that that
natural capacity to absorb excess and store it is being depleted. And yes,
the vast majority of this is due to human emissions.

1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what portion
is natural?

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

Don't think so. SUVs have us outnumbered by what, several tens of thousands
to one?


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On 2006-07-03, Dave Stadt wrote:
What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

Don't think so. SUVs have us outnumbered by what, several tens of thousands
to one?

This is of course how I personally rationalise my use of planes that get
half the gas mileage of a Hummer!

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-03, Dave Stadt wrote:
What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

Don't think so. SUVs have us outnumbered by what, several tens of
thousands
to one?

This is of course how I personally rationalise my use of planes that get
half the gas mileage of a Hummer!

I stopped rationalizing these things when I actually started answering
myself.

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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

Don't think so. SUVs have us outnumbered by what, several tens of
thousands to one?

In that case, we need to use guerilla tactics.

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

NOTE: The warming PRECEDES the CO2 increases by about 800 years.


What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

"Everyone" is in a panic and that will redound to pilots.

What's worse, the questions being asked as wrong if not backasswards.

On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:41:27 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

NOTE: The warming PRECEDES the CO2 increases by about 800 years.

Under normal circumstances.
So if this is the case already that means things are already headed
down hill.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


What has this got to do with aviation? Well, most of us GA people make
SUV drivers look like fuel misers.

"Everyone" is in a panic and that will redound to pilots.

What's worse, the questions being asked as wrong if not backasswards.

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

Very good!!

Follow-up: What is the most common greeenhouse gas and what is the breakdown
on human vs. natural sources?


2) What are the short-term and long-term effect of CO2 concentrations?

Ice core records going back hundreds of thousands of years plus other
evidence show that global temperature closely correlates with CO2
levels.

Yes, with a rather large delay; IOW, warming CAUSES CO2.

On 2006-07-03, Matt Barrow wrote:

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Matt Barrow wrote:
1) What percentage of annual CO2 production is human caused and what
portion
is natural?

Human production is around 3% of annual planetary CO2 production.

Very good!!

Follow-up: What is the most common greeenhouse gas and what is the breakdown
on human vs. natural sources?

Water vapor is the most common greenhouse gas. In fact, the greenhouse effect
is necessary for life as we know it in the first place. Without solar
energy being retained by H2O, CO2 and other gases, the Earth would quite
probably be rather frigid (although, if there was no water, it wouldn't
be icy of course!)

The human effect in the grand picture isn't that big (the Earth won't
turn into another Venus) but that's not to say that it won't be
significant. It's not necessary to "destroy civilization" either to have
less effect on the atmosphere. However, there's very strong evidence
(overwhelmingly strong) that the current increase in CO2 concentrations
is caused by us.

Yes, with a rather large delay; IOW, warming CAUSES CO2.

Cite?

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