Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.

I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people intentionally
murdering women and children to be innocent.

Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be innocent
all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7 times more
Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.

Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM declares
killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success because it
kills just one suspect?

Do you have any knowledge of the facts or are you deliberately shilling for
little Israel?

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"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.

I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people
intentionally murdering women and children to be innocent.

Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be
innocent all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7
times more Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.


Perhaps if that were true, but the Palestinian bombers are targeting
civilians. It is not "colateral damage."



Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM
declares killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success
because it kills just one suspect?



You're trying to make this an either/or choice, which it is not. I didn't
say the Israelis don't have blood on there hands. That is true for any
nation that has engaged in war. But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

Jarg

Jarg wrote:
But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.

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"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

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Jarg wrote:
But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis
have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.

-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.

---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

--
Cliff


Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists. Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.

Jarg

Jarg wrote:

Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists.

They have determined that an effective means of retaliation,
considering
their meager resources for fighting back against Israeli murderers and
terrorists who have killed and slaughtered their children wholesale
with
the ever-present support/protection of the mighty U.S.
The numbers speak for themselves.

Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.

Another common response from defenders of all things Israel.
If Israel had its way, there wouldn't be a Muslim left alive on the
planet, and all its enemies (real or imagined) would've been blown
to atoms, with all their lands a smoking ruin. But, unfortunately for
them, there's the rest of the world to deal with, including the U.S.,
who just might **finally** have to reel these murderers in for good
if they attempted such a mass extermination. They know that as
well as you and I do.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

--
Cliff

Jarg wrote:

Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists.

Women are drafted too. Israel should not permit its military to hide among
children.

Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.

Not only to you support Krystalnacht you now support mass extermination.

When did you become a Nazi?

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wrote:
Jarg wrote:

But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.


Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.


What genocide. The Palestineans breed like rabbits. Their population is
increasing.

Bob Kolker

Robert Kolker wrote:
wrote:
Jarg wrote:
But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the
Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.

What genocide. The Palestineans breed like rabbits. Their population is
increasing.

While Israel considers a law to make Viagra use mandatory for men.

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Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
...
Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
. com...
They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.
I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people
intentionally murdering women and children to be innocent.

Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be
innocent all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7
times more Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.

Perhaps if that were true, but the Palestinian bombers are targeting
civilians. It is not "colateral damage."

Targeting civilians is an Israeli lie as you know. They are conducting lawful
attacks against the occupying country. It is as lawful as Poles attacking Germany.

Buses are a military asset in Israel as they are used to transport troops. They
are lawful targets at any time as a military asset.

Any member of the IDF, on or off duty, active or reserve, is a lawful target.
In a country with universal military service any group of Israelis is a lawful
target.

Not only that by the Geneva conventions it is completely legitimate to attack
any place in Israel at any time without regard to any consideration save perhaps
avoiding hospitals.

Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM
declares killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success
because it kills just one suspect?

You're trying to make this an either/or choice, which it is not. I didn't
say the Israelis don't have blood on there hands. That is true for any
nation that has engaged in war. But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

And as you know Israel is lying when it claims innocents are being targeted I
do not see the point of your response.

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