Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

As for for flying, well, you can do the same thing in the most of
continental Europe except the Great Lakes tour.
It is a bit more costly though.

Now tell me, where can you land in five different countries in five
hours flying time with somthing as slow as a C150 without the need of
filling out a single piece of paper(not counting aircraft log).

This is intriguing, as Mary and I have been discussing visiting Europe
one of these years.

I would MUCH prefer flying myself around Europe, but have been
dissuaded from the notion by many people who have inferred that it is
quite impossible.

Please fill me in: What would I, as an American pilot, have to do to,
say, rent a plane in England, fly it to France, Belgium, Austria,
Germany, and back to England?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote

This is intriguing, as Mary and I have been discussing visiting Europe
one of these years.

I would MUCH prefer flying myself around Europe, but have been
dissuaded from the notion by many people who have inferred that it is
quite impossible.

Please fill me in: What would I, as an American pilot, have to do to,
say, rent a plane in England, fly it to France, Belgium, Austria,
Germany, and back to England?

As much as I know you love to fly, unless you have a very big block of time
(to take VFR delays into consideration) I wouldn't recommend it. It is
impossible to beat an unlimited 30 day Eurorail pass. You get to go
whenever you want, it is quick and on time, night or day, and it seems there
is always a train to get you where you want to go. I could see getting 1/2
the things seen, flying vs. train-ing.

Go over and rent a plane for a day here and there, when something demands a
view from the air.

Just my opinion, mind-ya. g
--
Jim in NC

PS This is a different machine that I'm posting from. I think my hard disk
just croaked! :-(
Anyone? What does it mean, when it tries to boot, and the hard drive starts
right away, and sounds like it is scanning the same sector, continuously.
CD will not eject, same if it is unplugged, or attempted to shut down with
the power switch, (which it will not do) to recycle it. It is an older
E-machine, running XP. Any guesses?

"Morgans" wrote in message
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PS This is a different machine that I'm posting from. I think my hard
disk just croaked! :-(
Anyone? What does it mean, when it tries to boot, and the hard drive
starts right away, and sounds like it is scanning the same sector,
continuously.

Yup...that's probably a dead drive. If you haven't had it powered on for
too long in that state, it's possible a drive recovery service can get your
data back for you, but even in a simple case that kind of thing costs a
fortune ($1000 is the low end). Hopefully, you've got your important stuff
backed up and don't need anything like that.

The only odd part is that you say that your CD won't eject either (at least
when things are powered-up). I'm not used to optical drives caring whether
or not there's even a hard disk around, never mind what state it's in, in
order to obey the eject button on the front of the drive. That said, if
you've got a CD stuck in there, you can probably get it out without turning
the PC back on.

Most optical drives (and many other kinds of removeable media drives, for
that matter, like floppy drives) have a small hole on their front. A
paper-clip or similar sized object poked through the hole will push on a
lever that opens the drive so you can get your disc out.

Why you can't eject the disc with the power on I don't know. Maybe some
funny business with the IDE controller that E-Machines put into that PC or
something like that. If you expect to have to get data off the failed
drive, ejecting the disc with the power off is better anyway though (unless
you are willing to open up the PC case and unplug the power to the hard
drive altogether, so that the hard drive doesn't power up when the PC power
is turned on).

Pete

As much as I know you love to fly, unless you have a very big block of time
(to take VFR delays into consideration) I wouldn't recommend it. It is
impossible to beat an unlimited 30 day Eurorail pass. You get to go
whenever you want, it is quick and on time, night or day, and it seems there
is always a train to get you where you want to go. I could see getting 1/2
the things seen, flying vs. train-ing.

I've heard the same thing, Jim -- but the poster seems to think that
the flying in Europe is easy and doable.

I'm prepared to let him explain himself -- heck, maybe Mary and I could
actually do a similar flight around Europe, like we've done so many
times before in America? THAT would look pretty cool in the ol'
logbook...

Besides -- I find trains fun, but...well, they're *trains*.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I took a one hour flight in a Warrior out of southern England in the
early '90s. It was expensive due to the fuel costs then. I couldn't
imagine what the hourly costs would be now.

Ross
KSWI

Jay Honeck wrote:

As much as I know you love to fly, unless you have a very big block of time
(to take VFR delays into consideration) I wouldn't recommend it. It is
impossible to beat an unlimited 30 day Eurorail pass. You get to go
whenever you want, it is quick and on time, night or day, and it seems there
is always a train to get you where you want to go. I could see getting 1/2
the things seen, flying vs. train-ing.


I've heard the same thing, Jim -- but the poster seems to think that
the flying in Europe is easy and doable.

I'm prepared to let him explain himself -- heck, maybe Mary and I could
actually do a similar flight around Europe, like we've done so many
times before in America? THAT would look pretty cool in the ol'
logbook...

Besides -- I find trains fun, but...well, they're *trains*.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
As for for flying, well, you can do the same thing in the most of
continental Europe except the Great Lakes tour.
It is a bit more costly though.

Now tell me, where can you land in five different countries in five
hours flying time with somthing as slow as a C150 without the need of
filling out a single piece of paper(not counting aircraft log).

This is intriguing, as Mary and I have been discussing visiting Europe
one of these years.

I would MUCH prefer flying myself around Europe, but have been
dissuaded from the notion by many people who have inferred that it is
quite impossible.

Please fill me in: What would I, as an American pilot, have to do to,
say, rent a plane in England, fly it to France, Belgium, Austria,
Germany, and back to England?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hi Jay,

For an American pilot there are two options.

1- Try to find an N-reg for rent, then you have all the priveleges as
in the US on your license. Problems, just one, finding that N-reg.
2- In of the JAA countries you can fly their aircraft on a FAA license
but with restrictions.
I found this piece of text on the AOPA-NL website:

Flying with a FAA PPL on Dutch
PH-aircraft
A pilot with a foreign licence, in
accordance with ICAO Annex 1,
can fly, without validation, private
flights, provided that:
a. he has no permanent home address
in The Netherlands
b. flights are VFR in aircraft certified
for one pilot and possible
restrictions for VFR-operations
in his licence are met.

Other countries may have similar rules, I think you better contact AOPA
about this. Or ask around on the Net.

Now, flying over here.
The air behaves the same, planes behave the same, compasses work here
too and clocks still show the time in hrs:min:sec and not some metric
equivalent, so those problems are covered.

All other things can be dealt with by three simple things:
Preflight,
Preflight and
Preflight.

The first few foreign flights will give you a few mild headaches( I had
them) but as soon as you know how it works it is not that difficult.
Oh, and be sure your cell phone works here.

Good luck,
Kees.

Jay Honeck wrote:

As for for flying, well, you can do the same thing in the most of
continental Europe except the Great Lakes tour.
It is a bit more costly though.

Now tell me, where can you land in five different countries in five
hours flying time with somthing as slow as a C150 without the need of
filling out a single piece of paper(not counting aircraft log).


This is intriguing, as Mary and I have been discussing visiting Europe
one of these years.

I would MUCH prefer flying myself around Europe, but have been
dissuaded from the notion by many people who have inferred that it is
quite impossible.

Please fill me in: What would I, as an American pilot, have to do to,
say, rent a plane in England, fly it to France, Belgium, Austria,
Germany, and back to England?

You would have to own your own oil well.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck wrote:

As for for flying, well, you can do the same thing in the most of
continental Europe except the Great Lakes tour.
It is a bit more costly though.

Now tell me, where can you land in five different countries in five
hours flying time with somthing as slow as a C150 without the need of
filling out a single piece of paper(not counting aircraft log).


This is intriguing, as Mary and I have been discussing visiting Europe
one of these years.

I would MUCH prefer flying myself around Europe, but have been
dissuaded from the notion by many people who have inferred that it is
quite impossible.

Please fill me in: What would I, as an American pilot, have to do to,
say, rent a plane in England, fly it to France, Belgium, Austria,
Germany, and back to England?

You would have to own your own oil well.

Matt

Maybe he got one of those that was stolen from Iraq

Matt,

You would have to own your own oil well.


BS! Can't you Americans get into your head that there are countries
besides yours? Jeeze!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
Matt,

You would have to own your own oil well.


BS! Can't you Americans get into your head that there are countries
besides yours? Jeeze!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)


Sure we can. They just aren't important.