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Old July 8th 06, 12:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Larry,

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?


That's done in every country I know of, including the US. I was
referring to the fact that even controllers often speak only very
marginal English, and that Air France pilots will talk in French even
at CDG.

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Old July 8th 06, 03:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:39:57 +0200, Thomas Borchert wrote:

Larry,

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?


That's done in every country I know of, including the US. I was
referring to the fact that even controllers often speak only very
marginal English, and that Air France pilots will talk in French even
at CDG.


.... and French is an ICAO language, IIRC.

I've been to some smaller airports in the US and there has been almost some
form of local 'slang' and wording, mostly on visual references not
mentioned on any chart and mostly only known to locals.

one example for CHD (Chandler, AZ):
Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.

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Old July 8th 06, 04:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Larry,

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?


That's done in every country I know of, including the US. I was
referring to the fact that even controllers often speak only very
marginal English, and that Air France pilots will talk in French even
at CDG.


"The Little French Girl" flew from Ohio to Montreal a year or so ago.
The locals were talking to the tower in the local French dialect. She, a
native French speaker, could not understand them.
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Old July 7th 06, 10:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Do the rules differ in any real way, or are they just goofy little
regulatory differences that have no immediate impact on most real
flights. (For example, if Belgium's VFR cloud restrictions are
different than France's, it's just a "gotcha" on a test, rather than
anything "real".)


Jay, this =would be= something real. The point of VFR cloud
restrictions is to give IFR traffic a chance to see you when they pop
out, and you them. If you are where they don't expect you, this is as
real as coming straight in NORDO to an uncontrolled field - a pet peeve
of yours.

Jose
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Old July 8th 06, 03:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Do the rules differ in any real way, or are they just goofy little
regulatory differences that have no immediate impact on most real
flights. (For example, if Belgium's VFR cloud restrictions are
different than France's, it's just a "gotcha" on a test, rather than
anything "real".)


Jay, this =would be= something real. The point of VFR cloud
restrictions is to give IFR traffic a chance to see you when they pop
out, and you them. If you are where they don't expect you, this is as
real as coming straight in NORDO to an uncontrolled field - a pet peeve
of yours.


Right, poor choice of words on my part.

I guess I mean to say "flight critical" -- not "real"...
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Old July 8th 06, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

Do the rules differ in any real way, or are they just goofy little
regulatory differences that have no immediate impact on most real
flights. (For example, if Belgium's VFR cloud restrictions are
different than France's, it's just a "gotcha" on a test, rather than
anything "real".)


Jay, this =would be= something real. The point of VFR cloud
restrictions is to give IFR traffic a chance to see you when they pop
out, and you them. If you are where they don't expect you, this is as
real as coming straight in NORDO to an uncontrolled field - a pet peeve
of yours.


Right, poor choice of words on my part.
I guess I mean to say "flight critical" -- not "real"...


Jay, I can give you "the little french girl's" email address.
She rented a plane and instructor for a couple hours last year, flying
around the area of France she grew up in. She could add to what others
have posted.
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Old July 8th 06, 04:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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I guess I mean to say "flight critical" -- not "real"...

Well, what is "flight critical"? The laws of physics don't change.
Pattern entries are different (at least in Canada), is this flight critical?

Jose
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Old July 8th 06, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Well, what is "flight critical"? The laws of physics don't change.
Pattern entries are different (at least in Canada), is this flight critical?


Differences (for example) in runway markings and cloud clearances from
country to country are not critical to the successful conclusion of the
flight.

Differences in airspace restrictions and fee structures *are* critical
to my not being arrested, or worse. They are therefore flight
critical, and I want to know what they are at this stage.
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Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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