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Old July 8th 06, 12:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Larry,

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?


That's done in every country I know of, including the US. I was
referring to the fact that even controllers often speak only very
marginal English, and that Air France pilots will talk in French even
at CDG.

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Old July 8th 06, 03:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:39:57 +0200, Thomas Borchert wrote:

Larry,

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?


That's done in every country I know of, including the US. I was
referring to the fact that even controllers often speak only very
marginal English, and that Air France pilots will talk in French even
at CDG.


.... and French is an ICAO language, IIRC.

I've been to some smaller airports in the US and there has been almost some
form of local 'slang' and wording, mostly on visual references not
mentioned on any chart and mostly only known to locals.

one example for CHD (Chandler, AZ):
Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.

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Old July 8th 06, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

one example for CHD (Chandler, AZ):
Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.


A simple "unfamilar" would have stopped that (or at least should have).

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Old July 8th 06, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 10:56:42 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

one example for CHD (Chandler, AZ):
Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.


A simple "unfamilar" would have stopped that (or at least should have).


sure it would have .. but I wanted to point out that mostly there are
references to/for locals only. Standard would be (IMHO) to refer to the
published references.

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Old July 8th 06, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:44:44 +0200, Martin Hotze
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Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.


I would think the aerial view of a high school would be distinctive
enough to be recognized by most folks; just look for the oval track in
the grass surrounded by classrooms. Other uncharted visual reference
points might be more difficult to identify.
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Old July 8th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:44:44 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote in
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Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.


I would think the aerial view of a high school would be distinctive
enough to be recognized by most folks; just look for the oval track in
the grass surrounded by classrooms. Other uncharted visual reference
points might be more difficult to identify.


Austrian schools do not have football fields with running tracks around
them. One has to be familiar with what one is looking at to recognize it.
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Old July 8th 06, 05:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:58:20 GMT, john smith wrote:

Austrian schools do not have football fields with running tracks around


not generally, but we have running tracks around our socker fields.
but a running track around a field does not neccessarily point out a
school.

them. One has to be familiar with what one is looking at to recognize it.


and if I had 100% positive ID of highschool, how do I know that it is the
mentioned highschool? It was not painted on their roof or something to that
effect. *g*

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Old July 8th 06, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Martin,

Austrian schools do not have football fields with running tracks around


not generally, but we have running tracks around our socker fields.
but a running track around a field does not neccessarily point out a
school.


Forget about the running track, look for muzzle flashes, listen for gun
fire.

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Old July 8th 06, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:18:58 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

Tower: "next report Hamilton High (school)"
I had to ask a local to show me on a map where I can find this highschool.


I would think the aerial view of a high school would be distinctive
enough to be recognized by most folks; just look for the oval track in
the grass surrounded by classrooms. Other uncharted visual reference
points might be more difficult to identify.


you might notice that aviation is international and that therefore - for
obvious reasons - there might be a small percentage (*doh*) of people in
this world who have never seen a highschool from outside, from inside or
from above and have no idea that a oval track is a _sure_ (!) sign of a
highschool. And how are classfrooms identified from above? And how will I
find out that I found out the _correct_ highschool (if I would have been
able to identify the construction as a high school)?

#m
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that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough
space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize
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Old July 8th 06, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Larry,

I would think the aerial view of a high school would be distinctive
enough to be recognized by most folks; just look for the oval track in
the grass surrounded by classrooms.


Not if you come from a country where schools don't center on jocks.

As an aside, I once asked a first year student at MIT what she liked
best about MIT. "No jocks" was the immediate answer. She went on to
explain that MIT was a true meritocraty (sp?) as opposed to
sport-centric schools. Made sense to me. I'm not good at sports, either
;-)

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