Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jordan wrote:

NONE of the Arab states that attacked Israel, as far as I know, has
ever had _any_ operational nuclear weapons. What has protected them
from annihilation has essentially been Israel's humaneness -- a frail
shield considering that the Arabs wish to annihilate Israel.

Humaneness is the Jewish Death Wish. Remember Amalek and blot his name
out. Remember and do not forget.

When Moshe Rabaynu (Moses our teacher) saw an Egyptian task master beat
a Hebrew slave, Moses surpressed that primordial Jewish urge to be fair
minded and consider the social forces that led to the task master's
brutality. He surpressed that and killed the momser.

Given a choice between having a tender heart and a tough mind, chose a
tough mind.

Bob Kolker

Robert Kolker wrote:
Jordan wrote:
NONE of the Arab states that attacked Israel, as far as I know, has
ever had _any_ operational nuclear weapons. What has protected them
from annihilation has essentially been Israel's humaneness -- a frail
shield considering that the Arabs wish to annihilate Israel.

Humaneness is the Jewish Death Wish. Remember Amalek and blot his name
out. Remember and do not forget.

When Moshe Rabaynu (Moses our teacher) saw an Egyptian task master beat
a Hebrew slave, Moses surpressed that primordial Jewish urge to be fair
minded and consider the social forces that led to the task master's
brutality. He surpressed that and killed the momser.

Given a choice between having a tender heart and a tough mind, chose a
tough mind.

Given the choice between doing something rational and deciding actions based
upon religious mythology the fundie believers will always choose the mythology.

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Robert Kolker wrote:

Humaneness is the Jewish Death Wish.

Quite possibly. The thing that I find remarkable about the way in
which the Arab-Israeli conflict is viewed internationally is the
extreme restraint that Israel has shown towards nations that want to
literally annihilate the Israeli people, and the way in which the
international community nevertheless puts all the blame on Israel. If
the Israelis had simply driven out the Arabs from conquered lands and
never let them come back back in 1967, this would not be the case --
there would have been an outcry at the time, which would long since
have been forgotten under the press of more recent news.

- Jordan

Jordan wrote:
Robert Kolker wrote:


Humaneness is the Jewish Death Wish.


Quite possibly. The thing that I find remarkable about the way in
which the Arab-Israeli conflict is viewed internationally is the
extreme restraint that Israel has shown towards nations that want to
literally annihilate the Israeli people, and the way in which the
international community nevertheless puts all the blame on Israel. If
the Israelis had simply driven out the Arabs from conquered lands and
never let them come back back in 1967, this would not be the case --
there would have been an outcry at the time, which would long since
have been forgotten under the press of more recent news.

- Jordan

So the removal of some 2,000,000 arabs from Palestine in 1947/48 to set
up the Jewish State has nothing to do with this?

Ricardo
--
"Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..."

Ricardo wrote:


So the removal of some 2,000,000 arabs from Palestine in 1947/48 to set
up the Jewish State has nothing to do with this?

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had as much to do with this "removal" as
did the Jews who founded the State of Israel. Many Arab speaking Muslims
and Christians removed themselves on the expectation and devout hope
that the Jews would be shortly wiped out or driven from the region. It
didn't work out that way. Sorry about that. Losing a war is such a bitch.

Bob Kolker

Robert Kolker wrote:
Ricardo wrote:


So the removal of some 2,000,000 arabs from Palestine in 1947/48 to
set up the Jewish State has nothing to do with this?


The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had as much to do with this "removal" as
did the Jews who founded the State of Israel. Many Arab speaking Muslims
and Christians removed themselves on the expectation and devout hope
that the Jews would be shortly wiped out or driven from the region. It
didn't work out that way. Sorry about that. Losing a war is such a bitch.

Bob Kolker

I wasn't taking sides, merely making an historical observation. Think of
it in terms of what you now call 'Native Americans' driving you off
their tribal homelands from which they were forcibly removed and
resettling them, and then bombing American cities when you tried to get
it back. At least the Native Americans have more moral right to do that
than the Israelis do with what they claim to be 'their' land.

Ricardo

--
"Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..."

Robert Kolker wrote:
Ricardo wrote:

So the removal of some 2,000,000 arabs from Palestine in 1947/48 to
set up the Jewish State has nothing to do with this?

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had as much to do with this "removal" as
did the Jews who founded the State of Israel. Many Arab speaking Muslims
and Christians removed themselves on the expectation and devout hope
that the Jews would be shortly wiped out or driven from the region. It
didn't work out that way. Sorry about that. Losing a war is such a bitch.

So what is the problem with kicking out a bunch of foreigners from Europe who
came to Palestine with the openly expressed intention of murdering Palestinians?
And as they started terrorist bombings Palestinians markets in the early 1930s
there was no reason to keep the foreigners around.

As "removing themselves" that zionist lie has been long exposed even by Israeli
historians so please do not try to work it in sideways.

As for losing a war, the ONLY people who have never been formally at war with
the European foreigners is the Palestinians.

Bobbie, grow up and learn to face reality and stop hiding like a child behind
zionists lie to salve your atheist conscience. EVERYONE knows they are lies.
When you repeat them people pity your wounded conscience.

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It is antisemitic to effectively criticize Israel.
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Matt Giwer wrote:
Robert Kolker wrote:

Ricardo wrote:


So the removal of some 2,000,000 arabs from Palestine in 1947/48 to
set up the Jewish State has nothing to do with this?


The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had as much to do with this "removal" as
did the Jews who founded the State of Israel. Many Arab speaking
Muslims and Christians removed themselves on the expectation and
devout hope that the Jews would be shortly wiped out or driven from
the region. It didn't work out that way. Sorry about that. Losing a
war is such a bitch.


So what is the problem with kicking out a bunch of foreigners from
Europe who came to Palestine with the openly expressed intention of
murdering Palestinians? And as they started terrorist bombings
Palestinians markets in the early 1930s there was no reason to keep the
foreigners around.

As "removing themselves" that zionist lie has been long exposed even
by Israeli historians so please do not try to work it in sideways.

As for losing a war, the ONLY people who have never been formally at
war with the European foreigners is the Palestinians.

Bobbie, grow up and learn to face reality and stop hiding like a
child behind zionists lie to salve your atheist conscience. EVERYONE
knows they are lies. When you repeat them people pity your wounded
conscience.

The fight against terrorism:

Http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...22/wbomb22.xml

Ricardo
--
"Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..."

Ricardo wrote:

The fight against terrorism:

Http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...22/wbomb22.xml

The whole thing is the claim the Brits were warned. The Brits say they were
not. If it comes to taking the word of terrorists or the Brits, I'll take the
Brits.

What is amusing is if this had happened today under Israeli law the perps would
be charged and convicted of multiple murders even if there was a warning even if
they were not terrorists.

And as Israel has been warned of being attacked by many groups and Israel has
not been evacuated I do not see what they are whining about.

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then Krystalnacht was a legitimate response to the murder of one ambassador.
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