McCain in '08

gatt wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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I remember some of the attacks on Kerry, but not the others.


But do you remember any by "the right"? I remember the Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth, but they weren't a right wing group, their message
wasn't political at all.

Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh.

Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided to make Vietnam
an issue and brag about his service during his four months there. Many others
who were there during that time wished to tell their side of the story he was
publicizing on the national stage. (Kerry certainly had nothing else to talk
about, despite his 20 years as a US senator without really doing much at all
and not bothering to show up for many votes and Intelligence Committee
meetings). In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of
one vote. Kerry didn't even bother to show up. What a great job of
representing his constituents.

Owen Hiller wrote:
gatt wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
news:JCdtg.7776
I remember some of the attacks on Kerry, but not the others.


But do you remember any by "the right"? I remember the Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth, but they weren't a right wing group, their message
wasn't political at all.

Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh.

Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided to make Vietnam
an issue and brag about his service during his four months there. Many others
who were there during that time wished to tell their side of the story he was
publicizing on the national stage.

He bragged about his service? Really? I must have missed that.

Many others were there? Where would that be -- Vietnam?

Their side of what story?

Doug Reese

(Kerry certainly had nothing else to talk
about, despite his 20 years as a US senator without really doing much at all
and not bothering to show up for many votes and Intelligence Committee
meetings). In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of
one vote. Kerry didn't even bother to show up. What a great job of
representing his constituents.

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Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided to make
Vietnam
an issue and brag about his service during his four months there. Many
others
who were there during that time wished to tell their side of the story he
was
publicizing on the national stage.

He bragged about his service? Really? I must have missed that.

You must have missed his grand enterance at the Democratic National
convention, too.

Many others were there? Where would that be -- Vietnam?

Their side of what story?

Willful ignorance is most unbecoming.

wrote:

Owen Hiller wrote:
gatt wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
news:JCdtg.7776
I remember some of the attacks on Kerry, but not the others.


But do you remember any by "the right"? I remember the Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth, but they weren't a right wing group, their message
wasn't political at all.

Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh.

Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided to make Vietnam
an issue and brag about his service during his four months there. Many others
who were there during that time wished to tell their side of the story he was
publicizing on the national stage.

He bragged about his service? Really? I must have missed that.

Sure must have missed 2004. "I am John Kerry , reporting for duty" and then he
proceeded to talk about Vietnam. The usual media partners of his party (NY Times,
Atlanta Journal-Constitution, LA Times, Boston Globe, etc) were very fond of
pointing it out too, so it was hard to miss.




Many others were there? Where would that be -- Vietnam?

I referenced Vietnam above.



Their side of what story?

The claims that Kerry was making in 2004.



Doug Reese

(Kerry certainly had nothing else to talk
about, despite his 20 years as a US senator without really doing much at all
and not bothering to show up for many votes and Intelligence Committee
meetings). In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of
one vote. Kerry didn't even bother to show up. What a great job of
representing his constituents.

"Owen Hiller" wrote in message
...

Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election
year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential
candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh.

Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided


HEY, SMART GUY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT JOHN KERRY DECIDED, ARE WE?
WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT WHAT JOHN KERRY DID?

In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of one vote.
Kerry didn't even bother to show up.

*shaking my head, baffled.* This is not a John Kerry debate, is it?

-c

gatt wrote:

"Owen Hiller" wrote in message
...

Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election
year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential
candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh.

Umm, sorry to remind you, but it was John F. Kerry who decided

HEY, SMART GUY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT JOHN KERRY DECIDED, ARE WE?
WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT WHAT JOHN KERRY DID?

Because you were interested in talking about what critics of Kerry were saying.
To understand their motivation of setting the record straight as they saw it, it
is important to know what Kerry did first. There is no need to get excited and
shout.



In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of one vote.
Kerry didn't even bother to show up.

*shaking my head, baffled.* This is not a John Kerry debate, is it?

To unbaffle yourself, reread what you wrote:

" Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election year,
specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential candidate.

Yeah, uh, nothing "political at all." Yeesh."

Again that was merely a direct response to Kerry's claims.

"Owen Hiller" wrote in message
...

In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of one
vote.
Kerry didn't even bother to show up.

*shaking my head, baffled.* This is not a John Kerry debate, is it?

To unbaffle yourself, reread what you wrote:

" Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election
year, specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential
candidate."

Again that was merely a direct response to Kerry's claims.

Which has nothing to do with whether Kerry bothered to show up for a bill to
extend unemployment in 2004, does it?

I told you I'm not interesting in talking Kerry politics, and I was polite
about it. Now, I'm not. So GET LOST! SCRAM!

NO, WE WILL NOT REFUND THE COST OF YOUR TICKET. YOU'RE LUCKY WE'RE GIVING
YOU YOUR SUITCASE BACK.

Or, in the words of David Space, BUH-BYE.
-C

gatt wrote:

"Owen Hiller" wrote in message
...

In 2004, a bill to extend unemployment benefits failed because of one
vote.
Kerry didn't even bother to show up.

*shaking my head, baffled.* This is not a John Kerry debate, is it?

To unbaffle yourself, reread what you wrote:

" Ah, right. Just happened to organize and go public during an election
year, specifically for the purpose of discrediting, gee, a presidential
candidate."

Again that was merely a direct response to Kerry's claims.

Which has nothing to do with whether Kerry bothered to show up for a bill to
extend unemployment in 2004, does it?

It has everything to do with why the veterans were rebutting the claims. The
timeline was a candidate for President was making claims about his own military
service. After this happened, other veterans who were in theatre at the time
strongly disagreed with said claims came forward with their own version of
events.



I told you I'm not interesting in talking Kerry politics, and I was polite
about it. Now, I'm not. So GET LOST! SCRAM!

If you're not interested in talking about anything, I'm not forcing you to talk
at all. You also seemed very interested in the swift boat veterans, and I'm
explaining the timeline to you. Get lost, indeed :-)



NO, WE WILL NOT REFUND THE COST OF YOUR TICKET. YOU'RE LUCKY WE'RE GIVING
YOU YOUR SUITCASE BACK.

Seek help. "Nothing to do" indeed, lol



Or, in the words of David Space, BUH-BYE.

David Space?

:-)

"Owen Hiller" wrote various plitical blatherings.

How about using the POL in the subject, Owen?