Proposal For A New Rec.Aviation Newsgroup. (WAS: McCain in '08)

So it looks like political discussion is destined to remain a fixture
in rec.aviation.piloting. I suppose, if original message thread
posters would be curious enough to preface their Subject lines with
'OT', it would facilitate filtering.

You can ask them to do that, sure.

On the other hand, I wonder how many of the current
rec.aviation.piloting readership might truly desire a forum where
pilots could discuss political aviation issues with their fellows?

Ask them? Run a straw poll.

Still sounds like a NIMBY act, though.
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We have all kinds of codes for filtering in this and other rec.aviation.*
groups, like ZZZ for Jim Campbell, or JJJ for Juan Jimenez, FS for selling,
and of course, OT for all kinds of stuff that is not on topic.

I propose we make a new filter aid, which we precede the subject line with:

POL: bla bla bla, ect

That will allow people that don't mind the political crap that is related to
flying, and still allow the people that object to filter it.

What say ye all?
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Jim in NC

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:30:54 -0400, "Morgans"
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So it looks like political discussion is destined to remain a fixture
in rec.aviation.piloting. I suppose, if original message thread
posters would be curious enough to preface their Subject lines with
'OT', it would facilitate filtering.

You can ask them to do that, sure.

On the other hand, I wonder how many of the current
rec.aviation.piloting readership might truly desire a forum where
pilots could discuss political aviation issues with their fellows?

Ask them? Run a straw poll.

Still sounds like a NIMBY act, though.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We have all kinds of codes for filtering in this and other rec.aviation.*
groups, like ZZZ for Jim Campbell, or JJJ for Juan Jimenez, FS for selling,
and of course, OT for all kinds of stuff that is not on topic.

I propose we make a new filter aid, which we precede the subject line with:

POL: bla bla bla, ect

That will allow people that don't mind the political crap that is related to
flying, and still allow the people that object to filter it.

What say ye all?

Okeydoke. That's a creative solution. At least someone is thinking.

Now how do you broadcast that convention? Do you amend the newsgroup
charter, or periodically post a notice, or ...?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:45:43 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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... Now how do you broadcast that convention? Do you amend the newsgroup
charter, or periodically post a notice, or ...?

Periodic notices, cheerleading, and good example.

There is no formal mechanism for changing group charters. The
one that goes on file at the time of the group's creation stays on
file.

Marty
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:01:51 -0400, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote in
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:45:43 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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... Now how do you broadcast that convention? Do you amend the newsgroup
charter, or periodically post a notice, or ...?

Periodic notices,

How do you propose to assure that periodic notices are posted? That
sounds like a job for the UNIX 'at' command.

cheerleading,

You're referring to the readership politely informing the author, of
the offending political article sans 'POL' prepended in the Subject
header, of the convention of flagging political content in
rec.aviation.piloting?

and good example.

That can only be accomplished by the informed.

There is no formal mechanism for changing group charters. The
one that goes on file at the time of the group's creation stays on
file.

Oh well...

and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.

Well, we're all informed now.

Jose
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:10:38 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.

Well, we're all informed now.


Actually, only those who have read the article are informed. That is
a small subset of the current readership of rec.aviation.piloting, and
completely overlooks those who have yet to subscribe to
rec.aviation.piloting in the future.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.

Well, we're all informed now.
Actually, only those who have read the article are informed.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.

That's the "we" I was referring to. And it does not preclude periodic
posting of the FAQs, which would include this (and the other
abbreviations, some of which I was not aware.)

Maybe we should prepend "PED" for pedantry.

Jose
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:59:22 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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Periodic notices,

How do you propose to assure that periodic notices are posted? That
sounds like a job for the UNIX 'at' command.

Create a FAQ.

Post it periodically.

It only has persuasive value. Anyone can create a FAQ.

Right now the automated FAQ services seem to be in
disarray. If you've got a unix guru to put it on a cron, great.
If not, just post it by hand.

cheerleading,

You're referring to the readership politely informing the author, of
the offending political article sans 'POL' prepended in the Subject
header, of the convention of flagging political content in
rec.aviation.piloting?

I don't think scolding does much good. Thank the folks who
use it and disregard--even killfile--the rest.

and good example.

That can only be accomplished by the informed.

And the benevolent.

Many malevolent people are very well informed.

Marty
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:01:27 -0400, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote in
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automated FAQ services

I wasn't able to find any such services.

What would the UNIX cron command look like?

0 0 1 * * inews -h faq-file.txt

The faq-file.txt would contain the FAQ complete with Usenet message
headers.

inews man page:
http://www.int-evry.fr/s2ia/user/dou...n/inews.1.html

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:43:00 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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automated FAQ services

I wasn't able to find any such services.

There was an automated FAQ server at MIT. Latest reports say that
it seems to be broken:

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/

I believe it was supposed to feed into the Internet FAQ Archives:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/

What would the UNIX cron command look like?

0 0 1 * * inews -h faq-file.txt

The faq-file.txt would contain the FAQ complete with Usenet message
headers.

Looks good to me. I haven't set up anything like this myself.

inews man page:
http://www.int-evry.fr/s2ia/user/dou...n/inews.1.html

Marty
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