McCain in '08

On 16 Jul 2006 18:49:30 -0700, "Flyingmonk"
wrote in . com::

Oh please enlighten me oh great one... g

Back in the '80's most news reading clients imposed a mandatory visit
to the news.newusers newsgroup upon their first time use, thus new
users had an opportunity to enlighten themselves about Usenet before
using it.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:59:22 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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Periodic notices,

How do you propose to assure that periodic notices are posted? That
sounds like a job for the UNIX 'at' command.

Create a FAQ.

Post it periodically.

It only has persuasive value. Anyone can create a FAQ.

Right now the automated FAQ services seem to be in
disarray. If you've got a unix guru to put it on a cron, great.
If not, just post it by hand.

cheerleading,

You're referring to the readership politely informing the author, of
the offending political article sans 'POL' prepended in the Subject
header, of the convention of flagging political content in
rec.aviation.piloting?

I don't think scolding does much good. Thank the folks who
use it and disregard--even killfile--the rest.

and good example.

That can only be accomplished by the informed.

And the benevolent.

Many malevolent people are very well informed.

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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:10:38 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.

Well, we're all informed now.


Actually, only those who have read the article are informed. That is
a small subset of the current readership of rec.aviation.piloting, and
completely overlooks those who have yet to subscribe to
rec.aviation.piloting in the future.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.

Well, we're all informed now.
Actually, only those who have read the article are informed.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.

That's the "we" I was referring to. And it does not preclude periodic
posting of the FAQs, which would include this (and the other
abbreviations, some of which I was not aware.)

Maybe we should prepend "PED" for pedantry.

Jose
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:02:33 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

Well, we're all informed now.
Actually, only those who have read the article are informed.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.

That's the "we" I was referring to.

Yes. But the fact that we have read it doesn't in any way inform
other readers, so it's not very meaningful.

And it does not preclude periodic
posting of the FAQs, which would include this (and the other
abbreviations, some of which I was not aware.)

So who will make the periodic FAQ postings?

Who will create the FAQ?

(Sheesh, I feel like Henny Penny)

Maybe we should prepend "PED" for pedantry.

Programmers who fail to learn the art of pedantry struggle with a
plethora of bugs. :-)

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:01:27 -0400, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote in
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automated FAQ services

I wasn't able to find any such services.

What would the UNIX cron command look like?

0 0 1 * * inews -h faq-file.txt

The faq-file.txt would contain the FAQ complete with Usenet message
headers.

inews man page:
http://www.int-evry.fr/s2ia/user/dou...n/inews.1.html

That's the "we" I was referring to.

Yes. But the fact that we have read it doesn't in any way inform
other readers, so it's not very meaningful.

1: The "other readers" are not part of the "we", until they read it, at
which time they become part of the "we" and also become informed, at the
same time.

2: Actually, the fact that we have read it, if we act on it, =does=
inform other readers... people who see the POL prepend (if it happens
often enough) will make the connection even absent explicit direction.

So who will make the periodic FAQ postings?

Adopting the convention does not require FAQ postings. We just start
doing it.

Programmers who fail to learn the art of pedantry struggle with a
plethora of bugs. :-)

Nah. Only their customers do.

Jose
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:54:53 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::


Adopting the convention does not require FAQ postings. We just start
doing it.

What an optimist.

Adopting the convention does not require FAQ postings. We just start
doing it.

What an optimist.

Well, actually since we started discussing this, there has been a
significant decrease in the number of political postings.

Sometimes Murphey does fall asleep.

Jose
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:43:00 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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automated FAQ services

I wasn't able to find any such services.

There was an automated FAQ server at MIT. Latest reports say that
it seems to be broken:

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/

I believe it was supposed to feed into the Internet FAQ Archives:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/

What would the UNIX cron command look like?

0 0 1 * * inews -h faq-file.txt

The faq-file.txt would contain the FAQ complete with Usenet message
headers.

Looks good to me. I haven't set up anything like this myself.

inews man page:
http://www.int-evry.fr/s2ia/user/dou...n/inews.1.html

Marty
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