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Proposal For A New Rec.Aviation Newsgroup. (WAS: McCain in '08)



 
 
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  #31  
Old July 16th 06, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Jose[_1_]
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I propose we make a new filter aid, which we precede the subject line with:

POL: bla bla bla, ect


Good idea... and when replying to an on-topic post with a reply that
contains political stuff, prepend POL: to the existing subject line.

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Old July 16th 06, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Larry Dighera
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:27:04 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::


Good idea... and when replying to an on-topic post with a reply that
contains political stuff, prepend POL: to the existing subject line.


Would you start a new message thread like that even if the political
content were on-topic?

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Old July 16th 06, 11:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Jose[_1_]
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Good idea... and when replying to an on-topic post with a reply that
contains political stuff, prepend POL: to the existing subject line.


Would you start a new message thread like that even if the political
content were on-topic?


Yes. I propose retaining the rest of the subject line. Of course it's
a judgement call as to how political it has to be to warrant POL, but
that's the way I'd start out... remember replies to that message may
well expound on the politital part rather than the aviation part; that's
proabaly the test to use.

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Old July 17th 06, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:45:43 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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... Now how do you broadcast that convention? Do you amend the newsgroup
charter, or periodically post a notice, or ...?


Periodic notices, cheerleading, and good example.

There is no formal mechanism for changing group charters. The
one that goes on file at the time of the group's creation stays on
file.

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Old July 17th 06, 01:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Larry Dighera
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:01:51 -0400, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:45:43 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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... Now how do you broadcast that convention? Do you amend the newsgroup
charter, or periodically post a notice, or ...?


Periodic notices,


How do you propose to assure that periodic notices are posted? That
sounds like a job for the UNIX 'at' command.

cheerleading,


You're referring to the readership politely informing the author, of
the offending political article sans 'POL' prepended in the Subject
header, of the convention of flagging political content in
rec.aviation.piloting?

and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.

There is no formal mechanism for changing group charters. The
one that goes on file at the time of the group's creation stays on
file.


Oh well...

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Old July 17th 06, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Jose[_1_]
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and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.

Well, we're all informed now.

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Old July 17th 06, 05:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:59:22 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in
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Periodic notices,


How do you propose to assure that periodic notices are posted? That
sounds like a job for the UNIX 'at' command.


Create a FAQ.

Post it periodically.

It only has persuasive value. Anyone can create a FAQ.

Right now the automated FAQ services seem to be in
disarray. If you've got a unix guru to put it on a cron, great.
If not, just post it by hand.

cheerleading,


You're referring to the readership politely informing the author, of
the offending political article sans 'POL' prepended in the Subject
header, of the convention of flagging political content in
rec.aviation.piloting?


I don't think scolding does much good. Thank the folks who
use it and disregard--even killfile--the rest.

and good example.


That can only be accomplished by the informed.


And the benevolent.

Many malevolent people are very well informed.

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Old July 17th 06, 03:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Larry Dighera
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:10:38 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

and good example.



That can only be accomplished by the informed.

Well, we're all informed now.


Actually, only those who have read the article are informed. That is
a small subset of the current readership of rec.aviation.piloting, and
completely overlooks those who have yet to subscribe to
rec.aviation.piloting in the future.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.
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Old July 17th 06, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Jose[_1_]
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Well, we're all informed now.
Actually, only those who have read the article are informed.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.


That's the "we" I was referring to. And it does not preclude periodic
posting of the FAQs, which would include this (and the other
abbreviations, some of which I was not aware.)

Maybe we should prepend "PED" for pedantry.

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Old July 17th 06, 05:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,news.groups
Larry Dighera
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:02:33 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

Well, we're all informed now.

Actually, only those who have read the article are informed.

I believe the necessity of a periodic posting of guidelines is
beneficial.


That's the "we" I was referring to.


Yes. But the fact that we have read it doesn't in any way inform
other readers, so it's not very meaningful.

And it does not preclude periodic
posting of the FAQs, which would include this (and the other
abbreviations, some of which I was not aware.)


So who will make the periodic FAQ postings?

Who will create the FAQ?

(Sheesh, I feel like Henny Penny)

Maybe we should prepend "PED" for pedantry.


Programmers who fail to learn the art of pedantry struggle with a
plethora of bugs. :-)

 




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