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Matt Whiting wrote:
Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure which not knowing your age. Matt No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. Matt Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the people just roll over for the government. |
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Emily wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure which not knowing your age. Matt No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. Matt Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the people just roll over for the government. Only to the paranoid. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure which not knowing your age. Matt No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. Matt Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the people just roll over for the government. Only to the paranoid. Matt Obviously we disagree on this. Keep your head in the sand, it seems to have worked for you so far. |
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Emily wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure which not knowing your age. Matt No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. Matt Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the people just roll over for the government. Only to the paranoid. Matt Obviously we disagree on this. Keep your head in the sand, it seems to have worked for you so far. Likewise, although it doesn't seem to be working as well for you. Matt |
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![]() "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Emily wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure which not knowing your age. Matt No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. Matt Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the people just roll over for the government. Only to the paranoid. Matt There was a time when people who thought that they were being watched by government were dismissed and called paranoid. What do you call those people who KNOW that they are being watched? What do you call the watchers? The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. |
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I have a friend who is a lawyer [not a sue the rich whore]
and now a state Senator. His favorite saying is, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you." Everywhere you go, there are recording video cameras. The corner store has cameras aimed the doors and each cash register. The clerks think this is their security, it is just so they can a. keep the clerks from stealing and 2. catch the robber who killed the clerk. On the street they have cameras at intersections, to identify speeders, stop light running, and track movements by terrorists. It also raises revenue for those stop lights run, since the get the driver's face and the vehicle make, model, color and tag number. Security on an airport means you check everybody without insulting or offending anybody "differently" from anybody else. So you can't profile Arab young men in groups, but you just randomly search everybody, the wounded vet, the Congressman, the pilots [airline crew], the baby in diapers.Just don't allow the screeners to be accused of discrimination. What about a van or truck two miles from the airport, with a shoulder launched missile? What about the unexpected attack on a small town, that only has two part-time policemen. Terror is about making every place seem too dangerous and you can't protect everywhere with official police and guards. That's where citizens come in, report, approach and ask "Can I help you?" Would you like to learn to fly, I've got an application, here's a pen. You should be friendly and catch hints wile they're off guard. Obvious bomb making stuff does not look like sticks of dynamite, lots of things explode, burn or poison. Get some training from your police on what to look for and what is proper near any important area. A car or truck parked in a no parking zone, or abandoned in a tunnel or under a bridge. There is no Jack Bauer or Casey Ryback and Columbo and The Lone Ranger are fiction too. Be polite works both ways, a cop who is polite can detect evasion and motives, a polite person will get help and not a roust. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Private" wrote in message news:FIPwg.222575$Mn5.24708@pd7tw3no... | | "Matt Whiting" wrote in message | ... | Emily wrote: | | Matt Whiting wrote: | | Emily wrote: | | Matt Whiting wrote: | | | You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure | which not knowing your age. | | Matt | | | | No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our | current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I | can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American? | | | 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American. | | Matt | | | Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the | people just roll over for the government. | | Only to the paranoid. | | Matt | | There was a time when people who thought that they were being watched by | government were dismissed and called paranoid. | | What do you call those people who KNOW that they are being watched? | What do you call the watchers? | | The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. | | |
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![]() Private wrote: The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. At all? Really? |
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![]() "Newps" wrote in message . .. Private wrote: The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. At all? Really? External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the greatest threat to our own freedom. I think Ben Franklin's (attributed) words said it best "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Some other thoughts on the matter, John Adams Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice. Justice Louis D. Brandeis Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Samuel Adams The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men. Lyn Nofziger One of the things that bothers me most is the growing belief in the country that security is more important than freedom. It ain't. Thomas Jefferson Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. Vance Packard The most common characteristic of all police states is intimidation by surveillance. Citizens know they are being watched and overheard. Their mail is being examined. Their homes can be invaded. "Necessity" is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt, 1783 We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. Ayn Ran Edmund Burke "The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." "Liberty has never come from the government.... The history of liberty is the history of resistance...a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it." --Woodrow Wilson 'Eternal Vigilance Is The Price of Liberty' used to mean we watched the government - not the other way around. "A conservative is a liberal that's been mugged. A libertarian is a conservative that's been mugged by his government." "There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation." James Madison |
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![]() Private wrote: "Newps" wrote in message . .. Private wrote: The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. At all? Really? External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the greatest threat to our own freedom. There you go, backing off already. As you should have. I have much more freedom today than 50 years ago. |
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Newps wrote:
Private wrote: "Newps" wrote in message . .. Private wrote: The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders. At all? Really? External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the greatest threat to our own freedom. There you go, backing off already. As you should have. I have much more freedom today than 50 years ago. Well, I'm not 50 years old, but I have less freedom than I did 10 years ago. Actually, I was a minor 10 years ago, so let's see I have less freedom than I did five years ago. |
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