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Old July 23rd 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Matt Whiting wrote:
It is obvious that you haven't yet learned to think on your own and
probably are still living with your parents.


You've now posted several personal attacks against Emily. She correctly
understood the law in one of her anecdotes and yet was attacked for
defending her rightful actions. I've posted elsewhere information that
supports her position. Your attack posts are self-referentially absurd and
I'm surprised you don't realize how this comes across.
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Old July 24th 06, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
Matt Whiting wrote:
It is obvious that you haven't yet learned to think on your own and
probably are still living with your parents.


You've now posted several personal attacks against Emily. She correctly
understood the law in one of her anecdotes and yet was attacked for
defending her rightful actions. I've posted elsewhere information that
supports her position. Your attack posts are self-referentially absurd and
I'm surprised you don't realize how this comes across.



First of all, "Emily" didn't in any shape or form correctly understand the
law in her self explained antics dealing with airport security. You are
completely wrong if you believe this.
Quite frankly, you "legal hair splitters" make my hair hurt! :-)
Secondly, duly appointed and authorized airport security has legal authority
to approach anyone at anytime, anywhere on the airport property.....period!
The manner of this approach is of course always subject to "hair splitting"
interpretation by people like you and Emily, but make no mistake about it ,
if you are on an airport property that is protected under law by an acting
authorized security agency, you have no "free or public zone" where your
"rights" of privacy take precedent over this authority. You may not like it,
and the security approach might not meet with your "delicate interpretation
"of your "rights", but like it or not, its perfectly legal.
As I said before, the system stinks , and there are good cops and there are
bad cops out there. But the fact remains; they are still duly authorized
cops, on their own duly authorized ground, and only people more concerned
with themselves than they are with security, start the type of idiotic
response to being approached that you and Emily are endorsing.
Dudley Henriques


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Old July 24th 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Dudley Henriques wrote:


Secondly, duly appointed and authorized airport security has legal authority
to approach anyone at anytime, anywhere on the airport property.....period!


And always have had.


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Old July 24th 06, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Newps" wrote in message
. ..


Dudley Henriques wrote:


Secondly, duly appointed and authorized airport security has legal
authority to approach anyone at anytime, anywhere on the airport
property.....period!


And always have had.


Amen!
DH


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Old July 24th 06, 05:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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the fact remains that taking pictures at
airports has now been placed within the realm of a possible security issue


So is wearing shoes, taking notes, walking around, and sneezing. It's
all within the realm of a possible security issue. In fact posting on
Usenet is most certainly a security issue, so anybody who posts on
Usenet should accept that they may be accosted at any time for any
reason by security should they wish to be at an airport.

So tell me, what =is= it that makes taking pictures a "security issue"
while your likely response to my prior paragraph would be ridicule?

Something doesn't become a security issue simply because a security
person says so.

Jose
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Old July 24th 06, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
t...

Something doesn't become a security issue simply because a security person
says so.


In fact, this is the exact process used for determining what constitutes a
security issue.
:-)

Dudley Henriques


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Old July 24th 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Something doesn't become a security issue simply because a security person
says so.


In fact, this is the exact process used for determining what constitutes a
security issue.
:-)


Then we are no longer a free country, and should export our freedom to
other nations, since we are no longer using them.

Seriously, to allow the police to say what it is that consititutes a
police matter is =extremely= dangerous. We might as well let the TSA
decide whether little airplanes consititue a risk around big cities, and
politely accept their dictates there too.

Jose
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Old July 24th 06, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
...
Something doesn't become a security issue simply because a security
person says so.


In fact, this is the exact process used for determining what constitutes
a security issue.
:-)


Then we are no longer a free country, and should export our freedom to
other nations, since we are no longer using them.

Seriously, to allow the police to say what it is that consititutes a
police matter is =extremely= dangerous. We might as well let the TSA
decide whether little airplanes consititue a risk around big cities, and
politely accept their dictates there too.


This is correct, and it's also the reason why the people deciding what
constitutes a security issue are indeed civilian and not police. Police are
simply the tool that implements these decisions.

Dudley Henriques


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Old July 24th 06, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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This is correct, and it's also the reason why the people deciding what
constitutes a security issue are indeed civilian and not police. Police are
simply the tool that implements these decisions.


The people who decide what consititues a security issue should not =be=
security people, civilian or not. Security peopls should =advise= our
leaders, but should not make the decisions, since it is in their best
interests that everything be a security issue.

Jose
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Old July 24th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Jose wrote:
Something doesn't become a security issue simply because a security
person says so.


In fact, this is the exact process used for determining what
constitutes a security issue.
:-)


Then we are no longer a free country, and should export our freedom to
other nations, since we are no longer using them.

Seriously, to allow the police to say what it is that consititutes a
police matter is =extremely= dangerous. We might as well let the TSA
decide whether little airplanes consititue a risk around big cities, and
politely accept their dictates there too.


Um....haven't we?
 




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