Why GA is Dying

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Emily wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

Emily wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:


You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not sure
which not knowing your age.

Matt



No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of our
current government. At least one person has picked up on that. I
can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you American?


100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American.

Matt


Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when the
people just roll over for the government.

Only to the paranoid.

Matt

There was a time when people who thought that they were being watched by
government were dismissed and called paranoid.

What do you call those people who KNOW that they are being watched?
What do you call the watchers?

The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders.

I have a friend who is a lawyer [not a sue the rich whore]
and now a state Senator. His favorite saying is, "Just
because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching
you."

Everywhere you go, there are recording video cameras. The
corner store has cameras aimed the doors and each cash
register. The clerks think this is their security, it is
just so they can a. keep the clerks from stealing and 2.
catch the robber who killed the clerk.
On the street they have cameras at intersections, to
identify speeders, stop light running, and track movements
by terrorists. It also raises revenue for those stop lights
run, since the get the driver's face and the vehicle make,
model, color and tag number.

Security on an airport means you check everybody without
insulting or offending anybody "differently" from anybody
else. So you can't profile Arab young men in groups, but
you just randomly search everybody, the wounded vet, the
Congressman, the pilots [airline crew], the baby in
diapers.Just don't allow the screeners to be accused of
discrimination.

What about a van or truck two miles from the airport, with a
shoulder launched missile? What about the unexpected attack
on a small town, that only has two part-time policemen.
Terror is about making every place seem too dangerous and
you can't protect everywhere with official police and
guards.

That's where citizens come in, report, approach and ask "Can
I help you?" Would you like to learn to fly, I've got an
application, here's a pen. You should be friendly and catch
hints wile they're off guard.

Obvious bomb making stuff does not look like sticks of
dynamite, lots of things explode, burn or poison. Get some
training from your police on what to look for and what is
proper near any important area. A car or truck parked in a
no parking zone, or abandoned in a tunnel or under a bridge.

There is no Jack Bauer or Casey Ryback and Columbo and The
Lone Ranger are fiction too.

Be polite works both ways, a cop who is polite can detect
evasion and motives, a polite person will get help and not a
roust.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Private" wrote in message
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| "Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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| Emily wrote:
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| Matt Whiting wrote:
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| Emily wrote:
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| Matt Whiting wrote:
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| You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a
juvenile, I'm not sure
| which not knowing your age.
|
| Matt
|
|
|
| No, I come across as someone who is terrified about
the state of our
| current government. At least one person has picked
up on that. I
| can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are
you American?
|
|
| 100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American.
|
| Matt
|
|
| Then you're part of the problem. History has shown
what happens when the
| people just roll over for the government.
|
| Only to the paranoid.
|
| Matt
|
| There was a time when people who thought that they were
being watched by
| government were dismissed and called paranoid.
|
| What do you call those people who KNOW that they are being
watched?
| What do you call the watchers?
|
| The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our
borders.
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|

Private wrote:


The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders.

At all? Really?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Private wrote:


The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders.

At all? Really?

External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the greatest
threat to our own freedom.

I think Ben Franklin's (attributed) words said it best "Those who would
give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve
neither Liberty nor Safety."

Some other thoughts on the matter,

John Adams
Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of
your
liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency.
These, as
they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy,
chicanery and cowardice.

Justice Louis D. Brandeis
Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect
liberty
when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom
are
naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded
rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious
encroachment
by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.

Samuel Adams
The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution,
are
worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them
against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance
from
our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and
danger
and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with
care
and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the
present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them
to be
wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out
of
them by the artifices of false and designing men.

Lyn Nofziger
One of the things that bothers me most is the growing belief in the
country that security is more important than freedom. It ain't.

Thomas Jefferson
Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it?
Or
will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom?
Material abundance without character is the path of destruction.

Vance Packard
The most common characteristic of all police states is intimidation
by
surveillance. Citizens know they are being watched and overheard.
Their
mail is being examined. Their homes can be invaded.

"Necessity" is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt, 1783

We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act
only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human
history, the stage of rule by brute force. Ayn Ran

Edmund Burke
"The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by
parts."

"Liberty has never come from the government.... The history of liberty is
the history of resistance...a history of the limitation of governmental
power, not the increase of it." --Woodrow Wilson

'Eternal Vigilance Is The Price of Liberty' used to mean we watched the
government - not the other way around.

"A conservative is a liberal that's been mugged.
A libertarian is a conservative that's been mugged by his government."

"There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people
by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by
violent
and sudden usurpation." James Madison

Private wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Private wrote:


The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders.

At all? Really?


External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the greatest
threat to our own freedom.


There you go, backing off already. As you should have. I have much
more freedom today than 50 years ago.

Newps wrote:


Private wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Private wrote:


The threats to our freedoms do NOT come from outside our borders.

At all? Really?


External forces may threaten many things, but we ourselves are the
greatest threat to our own freedom.


There you go, backing off already. As you should have. I have much
more freedom today than 50 years ago.

Well, I'm not 50 years old, but I have less freedom than I did 10 years
ago. Actually, I was a minor 10 years ago, so let's see I have less
freedom than I did five years ago.

Emily wrote:
Well, I'm not 50 years old, but I have less freedom than I did 10 years
ago. Actually, I was a minor 10 years ago, so let's see I have less
freedom than I did five years ago.

Give an example of a freedom you had 10 years ago that you do not have now.

Give an example of a freedom you had 10 years ago that you do not have now.

The freedom to fly myself into an airport near DC to visit a friend who
lives there. The freedom to carry a thin, large diameter steel disk
onto an airliner as hand luggage. The freedom to carry a swiss army
knife onto an airliner (and with it, the freedom to carry it routinely
without having to think "am I going to fly today?"). The freedom to
leave a book I'm shipping through the mail in my mailbox for pickup.
The freedom to borrow a book from the library and not have it tracked by
the government.

The freedom to say this and not be labeled a "tin hat".

Jose
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kontiki wrote in news:6Faxg.6297$Oh1.5537
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Emily wrote:
Well, I'm not 50 years old, but I have less freedom than I did 10 years
ago. Actually, I was a minor 10 years ago, so let's see I have less
freedom than I did five years ago.

Give an example of a freedom you had 10 years ago that you do not have now.

Can't smoke on a public beach.

Brian - who does not smoke except when thinking too hard
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kontiki wrote:
Emily wrote:
Well, I'm not 50 years old, but I have less freedom than I did 10
years ago. Actually, I was a minor 10 years ago, so let's see I have
less freedom than I did five years ago.

Give an example of a freedom you had 10 years ago that you do not have
now.

Hmmm, here's a few I think may qualify...

I was free to board a plane without being forced to take my shoes off. Or
pulled to one side to be searched - not for probable cause, but simply at
random.

I'm not on the "do not fly" list, but some people have been put on it and
have indeed had their freedom to travel by air denied.

I didn't always have to pay for meals on long flights - oh wait, that's a
"freebie," not a freedom. ;-)

In Oregon, I am no longer free to buy cold medicines containing
pseudoephedrine without a prescription (a law passed not because the
product per se was judged dangerous enough to require a doctor's order, but
as an attempt to starve the meth epidemic of a key raw ingredient).