Fear

I am very comfortable in an airplane at 35,000 feet or
higher. But I can't climb a ladder above the roof line, I
can't sit or stand in the picture window of a hotel room on
the 30th floor unless I move a couch in between me and the
window. Don't ask me to ride a Ferris wheel or roller
coaster.

Motorcycles are fine as long as I'm driving.

Always fly the yoke and trim the pressure to zero. Flying
with only the trim is an emergency procedure and must be
done very carefully. You were up dual and your instructor
saw you make the mistake. Learning from your own mistakes
is effective. But you didn't "feel in control" so you were
afraid. Intellectually you knew you'd be OK because the
instructor would save himself and you were along for the
ride. But YOU also knew you needed his help. Books and
simulators are not a substitute for real airplanes and real
stalls.

Have your instructor give you unusual attitude training,
including that same 50 degree nose high trim stall. Proof
to yourself that you can recover on your own and you'll
conquer the fear.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"minoad" wrote in message
oups.com...
|I originally wrote this for a psychology group, therefore I
have
| written it for that crowd. However, I may have more luck
with a
| response in this group.
|
| I noticed a strange thing today about myself. I am at
least a
| relativly intellegent and capable adult. Since a young
age I have had
| an interest in flying. I have finally gotten job that
affords me the
| income to pursue this interest. Because of this, last
week I signed up
|
| at a local flight school.
|
| In the last week I have spent in excess of 20 hours on the
simulators
| and have completed more than half of my total required
ground school.
| Because of this I have a good understanding of the theory
behind
| aeronautics along with the do's and dont's.
|
|
| The strange thing that I noticed is this. While on my
first flight
| today I expiereinced significant 'Fear' while in a climb
of almost 50
| degrees. This was my mistake as I had tried to trim
before using the
| yoke and had trimmed the wrong direction. My instructor
smiled at me
| and simply asked me to fix it.
| I knew all was well. The readings were all fine. I had
plenty of
| altitude. I also had an instructor next to me with more
than 8,000
| hours flying expierience. Based on all this I knew I was
fine.
|
|
| I am curious why I was feeling fear givin all the above
factors. Does
| this mean I am simply not cut out for flying? Is thier a
way to
| short-circut this mecanism? Will this disappear with
time? And most
| importantly, why was my brain unable to overide my fear?
I am
| concerned that this may indicate a problem with me
personally.
|
|
| My only expierience with Psychology is through the course
work that was
|
| required in school. Any ideas would truly be appreciated
and I thank
| you in advance.
|
|
| Micah A. Norman
|

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:52:50 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

I am curious why I was feeling fear givin all the above
factors. Does
| this mean I am simply not cut out for flying?

You can know everything there is to know about something. Experience
is the real teacher, especially in a hands on hobby like flying. As
good as they are, simulators don't do much for helping get used to the
sense of flying.

Give it a few hours. I think you'll get used to it.

z

I thanks you all for the response. I will admit though that 50 degrees
may be a bit of an exageration... although it seemed more like 90
degrees at the time.

When you snip, but leave my name, you really should leave
something I wrote, Jim Macklin wrote nothing on the page
below.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"zatatime" wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:52:50 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| I am curious why I was feeling fear givin all the above
| factors. Does
| | this mean I am simply not cut out for flying?
|
| You can know everything there is to know about something.
Experience
| is the real teacher, especially in a hands on hobby like
flying. As
| good as they are, simulators don't do much for helping get
used to the
| sense of flying.
|
| Give it a few hours. I think you'll get used to it.
|
| z

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:33:13 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

When you snip, but leave my name, you really should leave
something I wrote, Jim Macklin wrote nothing on the page
below.


This only happen because you top posted. Bottom posting would prevent
this from happening.

z

Then snip my name, I don't intend to change to bottom
feeding, er, posting.



"zatatime" wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:33:13 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| When you snip, but leave my name, you really should leave
| something I wrote, Jim Macklin wrote nothing on the page
| below.
|
|
| This only happen because you top posted. Bottom posting
would prevent
| this from happening.
|
| z

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:56:59 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote in
o7dxg.84060$ZW3.6509@dukeread04::

I don't intend to change to bottom feeding, er, posting.


So then a mixture of top and bottom posted follow up articles are
archived on GoogleGroups causing Usenet researchers no end of
difficulty in parsing the message thread.

Bottom posting is chronological; later comments occur after earlier
comments.

Have we become so lazy, that we would rather destroy the coherence of
the message archive rather than spin the wheel on our mice?

/rant mode

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:56:59 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

Then snip my name, I don't intend to change to bottom
feeding, er, posting.


Why should I do more work because you chose to top post? Calling it
bottom feeding is laughable since it is actually the proper way to
post.

z

All you have to do is snip two more lines from the dozens or
hundreds.


"zatatime" wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:56:59 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| Then snip my name, I don't intend to change to bottom
| feeding, er, posting.
|
|
| Why should I do more work because you chose to top post?
Calling it
| bottom feeding is laughable since it is actually the
proper way to
| post.
|
| z

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:14:49 -0400, zatatime wrote in
::

especially in a hands on hobby like flying.

When I see someone refer to GA flying as a hobby, it always makes me
cringe. To me, it means that the flight training of the pilot who
wrote it failed to truly ready the airman for assuming the command
role in flight as set forth in the federal regulations.

While there is usually great emphasis on learning the technical arcana
of flying, navigating, and metrology, it would appear that the
training failed to cause the airman to fully appreciate the
responsibility a Pilot In Command assumes for the lives of those over
whom he flies and his passengers.

If the flight student's mental outlook isn't fundamentally changed as
a result of his flight training, he probably doesn't really appreciate
the depth of that responsibility. And imagine how the layman feels
when he thinks hobby-pilots are noisily traversing the "sovereign"
airspace overhead, rather than a federally certified airman who
solemnly accepts his true command responsibility for the right to
exorcize the authority granted him by his airmans certificate.

If we refer to it as recreational flying, rather than a hobby, perhaps
the lay readers of this international forum will see that we airmen
take our responsibilities more seriously than mere hobbyists.