Why GA is Dying

Foreigners are not (and should not be) granted the same freedoms as American Citizens when on American soil.

Yes. Oh, and Blacks shouldn't be granted the same rights as whites and women shouldn't be ganted the same rights as men and ... geeezz.

What problem do you have with my statement? There is no parallel
between yours and mine.

Jews are not entitled to the same rights to Holy Communion as Catholics.

This is nothing against Jews, it is simply that =members= (of anything)
hold greater rights (=within= that something). It is what "membership"
means. I even qualified my original statement with "when on American
Soil", though I thought it would be obvious.

Jose
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Voting. Work. Carrying a gun. Buying certain businesses
or getting a business license. Running for President.
These are just a few of the many legal reasons and areas
when citizens and non-citizens are treated differently.


Yet non-citizens can get a pilot's certificate, get a green
card and work, buy a hunting license and carry a gun with
certain restrictions.



"Jose" wrote in message
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| Foreigners are not (and should not be) granted the same
freedoms as American Citizens when on American soil.
|
| Yes. Oh, and Blacks shouldn't be granted the same rights
as whites and women shouldn't be ganted the same rights as
men and ... geeezz.
|
| What problem do you have with my statement? There is no
parallel
| between yours and mine.
|
| Jews are not entitled to the same rights to Holy Communion
as Catholics.
|
| This is nothing against Jews, it is simply that =members=
(of anything)
| hold greater rights (=within= that something). It is what
"membership"
| means. I even qualified my original statement with "when
on American
| Soil", though I thought it would be obvious.
|
| Jose
| --
| The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the
music.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose schrieb:

What problem do you have with my statement? There is no parallel
between yours and mine.

Yes, there's a lot of parallels. But if you don't see this yourself,
there's no use to try to explain it.

Stefan

Yes, there's a lot of parallels. But if you don't see this yourself, there's no use to try to explain it.

The parallels diverge before meaningful comparison. My examples are of
=membership= in an =artificially created= group conferring rights
=granted= =by= that group. Your examples are all of =natural=
properties (sex, race...). If you really want to stretch the parallel
to fit, and are willing to be theistic, then the "groups" that you refer
to (men, women, blacks, whites...geez) are created by God, and
memebership is conferred by God. So, they have different "God-Given"
(and "God-enforced") rights, such as the right to become pregnant, the
right to tight curly hair... but this gets pretty silly and has nothing
to do with rights granted by man to other people.

Jose
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Jose schrieb:

The parallels diverge before meaningful comparison. My examples are of
=membership= in an =artificially created= group conferring rights
=granted= =by= that group. Your examples are all of =natural=
properties (sex, race...).

And the natural property to have been borne in some random place I
didn't choose myself.

Stefan

And the natural property to have been borne in some random place I didn't choose myself.

First, that's not a natural property.

Second, the consequences (in terms of "membership") are artificial,
related to governing bodies created by people. The only natural
consequences would have to do with being born in the mountains, near the
sea, near natural resources, stuff like that. And related to that, one
does not gain (or lose) "rights" on that basis. One does gain (or lose)
rights based on membership in artificial organizations like countries,
whether one elected to be a member or not.

Jose
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The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Stefan wrote:
Jose schrieb:

The parallels diverge before meaningful comparison. My examples are
of =membership= in an =artificially created= group conferring rights
=granted= =by= that group. Your examples are all of =natural=
properties (sex, race...).

And the natural property to have been borne in some random place I
didn't choose myself.

Compared to changing sex and race, you can very easily choose to change
citizenship.