Why GA is Dying

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.


Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.

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Emily wrote:

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

how about filing a FOIA to find out who has filed a FOIA?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Emily" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.


Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to
own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.

Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There
isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the
few states that has manditory gun registration.

In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful
information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry
permits.

KB

Kansas just passed a new CCW law and it will begin issuing
permit in January. They have already revised the law so
that the lists are only available to law enforcement, not
subject to FOIA requests.

Here in Kansas more than 50% of the homes have one or more
guns, but until next January, only police, PIs and criminals
on the prowl are carrying. There are even a few lawyers,
pharmacists, and taxi drivers who carry now. But soon, any
honest citizen will be able to legally carry. The state
will also soon approve out of state permits, so travel will
be safer.


--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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|
| "Emily" wrote in message
| . ..
| Thomas Borchert wrote:
| Emily,
|
| Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.
|
|
| Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But
let's not go
| there, the thread is bad enough as it is.
|
| Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because
someone in my state
| filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I
would not want to
| own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find
out I own one.
|
| But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.
|
| Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who
owns a gun? There
| isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you
are in one of the
| few states that has manditory gun registration.
|
| In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you
any meaningful
| information would be a request for a list of people who
have concealed carry
| permits.
|
| KB
|
|

Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.

Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to
own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.

Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There
isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the
few states that has manditory gun registration.

In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful
information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry
permits.

KB


Actually, I mistype. It was a request for conceal carry permit holders.
No idea why I wrote that. In any case, I don't know anyone in my
state who owns a gun and *doesn't* cc.

And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.

"Emily" wrote in message
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And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.

That's just silly Emily. Think about it. There are two people you have the
opportunity to rob. You know that person 1 has received training in how to
use a gun and there is a pretty good chance that they are carrying it on
them. Person 2 has not had the training and is probably NOT carrying a
firearm.

Which one would you rob? Add to that I kind of doubt that the criminal
element is going to be heading down to the State Police (or whomever manages
your CCW system) filing FOIA requests. That would sort of leave a paper
trail when peoples handguns started getting stolen.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily
wrote:
And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.

I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy targets... If
there is a greater chance that they might get killed by their intended
target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and reward type of
scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after speeders vs real
criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and expending money for
trial and incarceration...

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily
wrote:
And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.

I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy targets... If
there is a greater chance that they might get killed by their intended
target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and reward type of
scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after speeders vs real
criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and expending money for
trial and incarceration...

Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is going to take the
time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun registered. Is it
even possible to look up information like that?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily
wrote:
And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.
I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy targets... If
there is a greater chance that they might get killed by their intended
target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and reward type of
scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after speeders vs real
criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and expending money for
trial and incarceration...

Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is going to take the
time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun registered. Is it
even possible to look up information like that?

FOIA request.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily
wrote:
And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That
makes
you a target.
I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy targets... If
there is a greater chance that they might get killed by their intended
target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and reward type of
scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after speeders vs real
criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and expending money for
trial and incarceration...

Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is going to take the
time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun registered. Is
it
even possible to look up information like that?

FOIA request.

That only works for a request for one individual person, right? If so, why
do you think a crook would want to single out you?
--
Jim in NC