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Old July 27th 06, 02:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Depends on the law, Kansas doesn't allow public access to
personal information, some states do.

I wonder why those states don't publish lists of young women
living alone?


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"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Morgans wrote:
| "Grumman-581"
wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily

| wrote:
| And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals
knowing. That makes
| you a target.
| I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy
targets... If
| there is a greater chance that they might get killed by
their intended
| target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and
reward type of
| scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after
speeders vs real
| criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and
expending money for
| trial and incarceration...
|
| Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is
going to take the
| time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun
registered. Is it
| even possible to look up information like that?
|
| FOIA request.


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Old July 27th 06, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Some states do publish such lists, probably to raise another
obstacle to getting a permit.



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Morgans" wrote in message
news |
| "Grumman-581"
wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:09:50 -0500, Emily

| wrote:
| And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals
knowing. That makes
| you a target.
|
| I must disagree... Criminals are going to go after easy
targets... If
| there is a greater chance that they might get killed by
their intended
| target, they will go elsewhere... It's all a risk and
reward type of
| scenario... Pretty much the same reason cops go after
speeders vs real
| criminals -- low risk, good money vs high risk and
expending money for
| trial and incarceration...
|
| Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is
going to take the
| time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun
registered. Is it
| even possible to look up information like that?
| --
| Jim in NC
|


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Old July 27th 06, 06:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune[_1_]
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After Katrina, one of the first responses by the NOPD was to confiscate
private citizens' guns. They used the gun registry.

One of the many reasons I live in NH, where we have very, very low crime
(other than routine violations of FARs, which no one polices), and fences
are usually to keep the horses on the property:

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/StateLaws.aspx?ST=NH

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Old July 27th 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_1_]
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:44:37 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:
Even a bigger factor is the likelihood that a crook is going to take the
time to look up and see if a potential victim has a gun registered. Is it
even possible to look up information like that?


Nope, there is no way for that to happen... In some states, it is
possible to see if a person has a CHL, but there is a significant
number of people who own firearms but do not have a CHL... There is
also a pretty good number of people who have bought their firearms
from others and as such, there is no paper trail whatsoever on the
firearms... This is as it should be, of course... The government has
no business knowing who might own a gun... Registration leads to
confiscation...
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Old July 26th 06, 04:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.


??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Old July 26th 06, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my
state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would
not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out
I own one.


??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.


That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that I keep a gun
in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know they have a
weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept.
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Old July 26th 06, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Criminals expect that their victims will be unarmed.
Workplace rules, gun free zones and in Wisconsin and
Illinois, a general law against carrying weapons in public.
In states that allow concealed carry by qualified person who
have had some training, passed a background check, criminals
don't know who is carrying and who isn't. That bystander or
the old woman in a wheelchair [could be a man] can carry and
shoot. Criminals have never been shy about shooting people,
but they have been loath to get shot. CCW laws make the
criminal less safe since now any person might be a police
officer, an armed citizen or even, another criminal. It is
called deterrence and it works. Person on person crime goes
down very soon after a CCW law is in effect. Property crime
goes up, which shows that the criminal is looking for safer
crimes to commit.

Anyone who doesn't want to carry a gun is free to do so, the
armed citizen will protect you. But the other way around,
you don't have a right to tell us that we can't protect
ourselves and our families.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Newps wrote:
|
|
| Emily wrote:
|
|
|
| Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because
someone in my
| state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun
owners. I would
| not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to
could find out
| I own one.
|
| ??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
|
| That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that
I keep a gun
| in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know
they have a
| weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept.


 




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