Why GA is Dying

Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want
to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Emily,

Personally, I think neighborhood watches are creepy.

Especially in a country with, well, lose gun laws. But let's not go
there, the thread is bad enough as it is.

Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my state
filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would not want to
own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out I own one.

But you're right, it's bad enough as it is.

Where do you live and how does a FOIA request turn up who owns a gun? There
isn't supposed to be a database of gun owners unless you are in one of the
few states that has manditory gun registration.

In my state (GA) the only FOIA request that would get you any meaningful
information would be a request for a list of people who have concealed carry
permits.

KB


Actually, I mistype. It was a request for conceal carry permit holders.
No idea why I wrote that. In any case, I don't know anyone in my
state who owns a gun and *doesn't* cc.

And still...if I own a gun, I don't want criminals knowing. That makes
you a target.

Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:



Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because someone in my
state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun owners. I would
not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to could find out
I own one.

??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that I keep a gun
in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know they have a
weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept.

Criminals expect that their victims will be unarmed.
Workplace rules, gun free zones and in Wisconsin and
Illinois, a general law against carrying weapons in public.
In states that allow concealed carry by qualified person who
have had some training, passed a background check, criminals
don't know who is carrying and who isn't. That bystander or
the old woman in a wheelchair [could be a man] can carry and
shoot. Criminals have never been shy about shooting people,
but they have been loath to get shot. CCW laws make the
criminal less safe since now any person might be a police
officer, an armed citizen or even, another criminal. It is
called deterrence and it works. Person on person crime goes
down very soon after a CCW law is in effect. Property crime
goes up, which shows that the criminal is looking for safer
crimes to commit.

Anyone who doesn't want to carry a gun is free to do so, the
armed citizen will protect you. But the other way around,
you don't have a right to tell us that we can't protect
ourselves and our families.


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"Emily" wrote in message
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| Newps wrote:
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| Emily wrote:
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|
| Loose gun laws? I dunno. I don't own a gun because
someone in my
| state filed a FOIA request to get a list of all gun
owners. I would
| not want to own a gun knowing that anyone who wanted to
could find out
| I own one.
|
| ??? Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
|
| That's nice for you. I don't want criminals knowing that
I keep a gun
| in my car, in my house, or on my body. Then they know
they have a
| weapon to use against you. Not a tough concept.

Very wrong, you just need to dress properly for CCW. The
are many fine handguns that can be effective for defense and
are small enough to carry hidden in any number of holsters,
bras, fanny-packs, purses, brief cases, garter belts, boots,
headset bags, computer cases, PDA cases. I agree about
people knowing who owns guns, since the American Revolution
started because the British decided to confiscate the arms
the colonists had in the keeping. That event was the spark
that started the war and resulted in the Second Amendment.

But if you go into any home in Texas, the odds are you'll
find a gun are better than 50-50. If you have a gun, keep
it close at hand, if you leave it home it can be stolen or
found by a child, carried securely on your person and it is
safe and so are you.



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Emily" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| snip
|
| Anyone who doesn't want to carry a gun is free to do so,
the
| armed citizen will protect you. But the other way
around,
| you don't have a right to tell us that we can't protect
| ourselves and our families.
|
| Hey, I'm *totally* fine with people owning guns. I'd own
one myself if
| I hadn't just bought a house, car, and checkout in a
Seneca. What I'm
| not ok with is someone *knowing* that I own a gun. That
makes me feel
| LESS safe. I don't want to be killed in my house by my
own gun. Don't
| get me wrong, I'd use it, but I don't need someone
breaking in, finding
| it, and using it on me when I get home. And with cc
permit info out
| there for everyone, it would be very easy to find those
people.
|
| Because let's face it, it's hard for a woman to conceal a
firearm in
| Texas in the summer. It's got to stay in the house.

Jim Macklin wrote:
Very wrong, you just need to dress properly for CCW. The
are many fine handguns that can be effective for defense and
are small enough to carry hidden in any number of holsters,
bras, fanny-packs, purses, brief cases, garter belts, boots,
headset bags, computer cases, PDA cases.

Ok, I wear/carry one of the above, and a gun would never fit in it! I
suppose an ankle holster would work. Of course, I work at an airport,
and no guns allowed, even in the car in the parking lot.

I agree about
people knowing who owns guns, since the American Revolution
started because the British decided to confiscate the arms
the colonists had in the keeping. That event was the spark
that started the war and resulted in the Second Amendment.

NOW you started it! Didn't anyone tell you it's politically incorrect
to talk about the Bill of Rights?

the ramp. During the visit he gave me one of his old high powered deer
rifles as a present. When I went back to the plane I walked right
through the terminal with it and out to my plane. Started up and left.
No one gave me a second look. I laughed about it most of the way home.

Jokes on you; there are no more high-powered deer anymore.

Didn't anyone tell you it's politically incorrect to talk about the Bill of Rights?

It's ok if you use the POL tag. We're far enough off topic.

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose wrote:
Didn't anyone tell you it's politically incorrect to talk about the
Bill of Rights?

It's ok if you use the POL tag. We're far enough off topic.

Jose
I think I stopped reading the thread where that was discussed.

Parking lots are not sterile areas and guns are allowed,
even in the checked baggage on the airlines. I carried a
gun regularly in my flight bag on charter flights. Some of
my passengers did too, on part 91 flights. We also carried
hunters and target shooters on 135, and their unloaded guns
went in the airplane. If we had a nose baggage, they went
there, but in the King Air, it was all in the cabin.

Look for small 32 and 38 caliber revolvers and small auto
pistols, some are powerful enough and will fit in places you
would find handier than 40 miles away in a drawer.

You might look better in a pair of tight jeans and a man's
white shirt tied above the waist, but if the shirt is
bloused and tied below the waist and the jeans have a little
slack and you use a stiff belt, you can carry a small 45
automatic pistol just over the hip behind you and a spare
magazine on the other hip. Maybe you can't carry on the
airplane or into the workplace, but you can get a CCW in
Texas and carry to the pizza parlor or Circle K.

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--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.






"Emily" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Very wrong, you just need to dress properly for CCW.
The
| are many fine handguns that can be effective for defense
and
| are small enough to carry hidden in any number of
holsters,
| bras, fanny-packs, purses, brief cases, garter belts,
boots,
| headset bags, computer cases, PDA cases.
|
| Ok, I wear/carry one of the above, and a gun would never
fit in it! I
| suppose an ankle holster would work. Of course, I work at
an airport,
| and no guns allowed, even in the car in the parking lot.
|
| I agree about
| people knowing who owns guns, since the American
Revolution
| started because the British decided to confiscate the
arms
| the colonists had in the keeping. That event was the
spark
| that started the war and resulted in the Second
Amendment.
|
| NOW you started it! Didn't anyone tell you it's
politically incorrect
| to talk about the Bill of Rights?