captain jepp

"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting

Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks were so
relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the Jepps to become
the de facto industry standard, even after the government started publishing
their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

All the data is public available, but I believe certain elements of
formatting and presentation are copyrighted. You could start publishing
your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing
virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a different
format chart.

Simply Put "tradition" it the reason behind eveything. Noone want to
move to something new, even if its better. There are some old time
pilots who don't even use GPS. I just think that pilots don't like
change. This is way Sporty, asa, gliem, and jepp are the only
manufactures that make it. Pilot are afriad to try something new. But
i do think that the new generation will be changing it.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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All the data is public available, but I believe certain elements of
formatting and presentation are copyrighted. You could start publishing
your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing
virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a
different format chart.

It would be more than tough. It would be impossible. A person would
probably never do better than a niche competitor to Jeppesen, unless they
came up with some huge innovation that was so important, it made a
significant difference in the use of the charts. Even then, they won't come
close to "convincing virtually every" user.

But they don't need to. I don't see any reason someone couldn't carve out
that niche and make a decent living. If it can work for VFR (O'Keefe), why
not IFR?

Pete

their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

What do the military pilots use?

your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing
virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a different

I don't think you necessarily want to convince *everyone*, but there certainly
may be some niche for you. Doesn't it strike you as odd that there is just
one thing on the market and everybody is happy and would want nothing else?
Wouldn't it be strange if there were just one company making gps receivers,
and just one type of receiver, and everyone would be happy to have one and
not want to even think of anything else? Is it a bad comparison?

format chart.

"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

What do the military pilots use?

I think military pilots are - or used to be - required to use the fed
charts. Still, I never met one who, after having an opportunity to use
Jepps, maintained a preference for the gov charts.

Most people I know found the government update system awkward, but it was
designed for a different kind of operation, where a pilot could go into Ops
and get a chart kit and know that it was invariably uniform and current. No
one had to go through the set and r/r individual sheets.

John Gaquin wrote:
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.
What do the military pilots use?

I think military pilots are - or used to be - required to use the fed
charts. Still, I never met one who, after having an opportunity to use
Jepps, maintained a preference for the gov charts.

My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message news:IGOxg.75725.


My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

Are they still free?? :-)

John Gaquin wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message news:IGOxg.75725.

My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

Are they still free?? :-)



Online, yes. Cheap if printed for you.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:15:32 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote:
Online, yes. Cheap if printed for you.

The electronic media version (i.e. DVD data) is $12.50 per edition for
the entire US and $162.50 for an entire year's worth of editions (i.e.
13 editions)...

http://naco.faa.gov/ecomp/ProductDet...ProductID=DTPP

John Gaquin wrote:
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting

Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks were so
relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the Jepps to become
the de facto industry standard, even after the government started publishing
their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I will probably switch to FAA charts when my Jepps subscription expires
in a couple of months.

-jav