Weight-based User Fee Might Incentivize Smaller Planes

According to
these panelists, customers would monitor the ATO's spending to
ensure that the ATO addressed their priorities, and the ATO would
provide better service because it would try to please the
customers rather than the appropriators who now fund its
activities.

For this to happen, two other things would need to occur. They a

1: There would need to be several different independent companies
providing the services on a competitive basis.

2: There would need to be an absence of a requirement to procure =any=
kind of briefing, and no prosecution of anybody who came to grief
because he did not procure an acceptable briefing.

These things won't happen.

For it to be fair, a third thing would have to happen - to wit: the end
of all taxes on fuel.

That won't happen either.

Jose
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:08:25 GMT, Jose
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1: There would need to be several different independent companies
providing the services on a competitive basis.

I strongly suggest you read the full document; it is quite
enlightening. The document acknowledges the monopolistic aspect of
the proposed user fee funded ATC system.

2: There would need to be an absence of a requirement to procure =any=
kind of briefing, and no prosecution of anybody who came to grief
because he did not procure an acceptable briefing.

What makes you say that?

These things won't happen.

For it to be fair, a third thing would have to happen - to wit: the end
of all taxes on fuel.

IMO, it is doubtful Congress will repeal ticket and fuel taxes. The
report indicates that trust fund accounts for about nine of the $14B
annual FAA budget. Nobody's going to kill that golden goose. And
rightfully so. It's a far more equitable and cost effective way of
colleting the revenue than what occurs in other countries who have
privatized ATC.

I strongly suggest you read the full document; it is quite
enlightening. The document acknowledges the monopolistic aspect of
the proposed user fee funded ATC system.

I read the full post; I've saved the post for later perusal of the full
document. In brief, what does it say about the monopolistic aspect of
the user fee funded ATC system? Saying "we know we've got you by the
balls, nyah nyah" is not very satisfactory (though it would be
enlightening

2: There would need to be an absence of a requirement to procure =any=
kind of briefing, and no prosecution of anybody who came to grief
because he did not procure an acceptable briefing.
What makes you say that?

The thing that kills the normal give and take of free economics is a
middleman who calls the shots. This is what happened to health care -
once the insurance companies got in between the patient and the doctor,
costs were free to spiral out of control (to respond to this point,
please prepend POL to the subject line). In this case, the FAA (and the
probably soon the insurance companies), by requiring a briefing, remove
one avenue of cost feedback in the system (too expensive, don't buy it).
If the other is removed (too expensive, go to a competitor) there will
be no incentive to control the price of a briefing, or of other ATC
services.

[Fuel taxes are] a far more equitable and cost effective way of
colleting the revenue than what occurs in other countries who have
privatized ATC.

I agree. But they shouldn't be imposed IN ADDITION to user fees for the
things the fuel tax is supposed to cover.

Jose
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:49:14 GMT, Jose
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Seriously, skim the document, and just read the interesting parts;
don't neglect the appendices. It's easy to get a feel for who is
trying to get hold of the government's purse strings without
congressional oversight. http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05333sp.html


The thing that kills the normal give and take of free economics is a
middleman who calls the shots.

There are at lease multiple providers of health care.

The administration has twisted reality to the point of saying the
government is free to abnegate its control of our nation's navigable
airspace by declaring ATC to be "inherently commercial."

Under President Clinton, air traffic services were defined as
"inherently governmental," meaning that they could not be provided
by the private sector. In June 2002, President Bush issued
Executive Order 13264, which revised that definition and opened
the way for FAA to contract with private companies for services on
a test basis, as directed by OMB Circular A-76.

The performance-based Air Traffic Organization (ATO) was created
in February 2004 to improve the management of the modernization
effort.

In February 2004, FAA merged its Office of Air Traffic Services,
Office of Research and Acquisitions, and Free Flight Program
Office to create the ATO.


I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?

Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC services
in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to consider it a wash.
To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it out of hide.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
cases it is forced upon general aviation.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article ,
| Larry Dighera wrote:
|
| I wonder how the USAF feels about user fees?
|
| Given that the USAF (and Navy and Army) provides some ATC
services
| in the NAS, I anticipate that the FAA will be told to
consider it a wash.
| To put it another way, ain't no way the DoD will take it
out of hide.
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
: ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
: available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
: cases it is forced upon general aviation.
:
:
: --
: James H. Macklin
: ATP,CFI,A&P
:

A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...