Am I the only person at Oshkosh without wheels?

Dave Stadt wrote:

If there were really a problem something would be done.


Sometimes it's not a "problem" until somebody gets hurt, and all of a
sudden "legal" has to get involved.

I volunteer in a medical capacity with one of the largest and richest
rodeos in the world, and the "golf cart" problem was unchecked until
last year (when, you guessed it.. someone got run over). This years
show, there were "no cart zones" and designated "cart paths that were
explicitly designed to separate the carts from the people. Violators
were considered to have been warned during orientation and cart
operators had their priveledges yanked on first offense. We had signs up
of all the affected areas in ALL the committee workspaces and on flyers
inside every vehicle. The officers and other big wigs were not exempt.

For an event this size, there should be "cart runs" that are separate
from the people.. or separate from non wheeled vehicles. These paths
should be made with minimal disruption of the flow of the show, and
should be on the "back" side of things wherever possible. I know that is
a tad more difficult at OSH due to the layout, but it can be done.. We
are talking about a path that is the wingspan of one plane.. less than
one parking space per row of planes.

The only vehicles that have a reason to go INTO the crowd are medical
and law enforcement. Everyone else should be given a path AROUND the crowd.

Dave

"Dave S" wrote

For an event this size, there should be "cart runs" that are separate
from the people.. or separate from non wheeled vehicles. These paths
should be made with minimal disruption of the flow of the show, and
should be on the "back" side of things wherever possible. I know that is
a tad more difficult at OSH due to the layout, but it can be done.. We
are talking about a path that is the wingspan of one plane.. less than
one parking space per row of planes.

The only vehicles that have a reason to go INTO the crowd are medical
and law enforcement. Everyone else should be given a path AROUND the
crowd.

The biggest problem with doing that would not be controlling cart traffic.
It is the people. People walk EVERYWHERE except down the taxiway and Knapp
street, and even then, people still walk down Knapp street, even with a
sidewalk right next to it. Go figure.
--
Jim in NC

I wholeheartedly agree that there was a problem this year on the
perimeter road around the north 40. I am one of the volunteers out on
the Flight line for general aviation parking and camping and noticed
cars going 45 (!) on the road around 9-27 with people everywhere.

Totally unacceptable. I brought it up with the powers that be, and the
police/security were going to patrol on a more frequent basis. The last
thing anyone wants is to survive the Green/Rush lake holds, and then
Fisk, only to be clocked by a car on the flight line!!!

Those of us in Flight Line Operations around 9-27 were making a
conscious effort to be good, but we spend most of our time on the grass
and hard surface taxiways anyway, out of everyones way in cars.

I agree there was a problem. There seems to be a significant increase
in the number of cars on the field in the last few years.
Anybody from EAA should give way to a pedestrian regardless, but there
are people from every organization under the sun on the field, and
regulating them is impossible, except to enforce the 15mph speed limit
by the police and security.

I hope that it doesn't take a tragedy to help fix the problem.
We are better than that.

Ryan Wubben
Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations

wrote in message ups.com...
:I wholeheartedly agree that there was a problem this year on the
: perimeter road around the north 40. I am one of the volunteers out on
: the Flight line for general aviation parking and camping and noticed
: cars going 45 (!) on the road around 9-27 with people everywhere.
:
....snip
:
: I hope that it doesn't take a tragedy to help fix the problem.
: We are better than that.
:
: Ryan Wubben
: Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations
:

I agree, it was not so much the number, but the speed of the vehicles that was the problem in my eyes. Some were going
pretty fast...

..Blueskies. wrote:
wrote in message ups.com...
:I wholeheartedly agree that there was a problem this year on the
: perimeter road around the north 40. I am one of the volunteers out on
: the Flight line for general aviation parking and camping and noticed
: cars going 45 (!) on the road around 9-27 with people everywhere.
:
...snip
:
: I hope that it doesn't take a tragedy to help fix the problem.
: We are better than that.
:
: Ryan Wubben
: Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations
:

I agree, it was not so much the number, but the speed of the vehicles that was the problem in my eyes. Some were going
pretty fast...


Ditto. Not for nuthin' but I have a hearing impaired 8 year old and
that makes for some tense moments. At least he's been taught to be
careful on the road. Getting him to be ever vigilant of being run down
by a Gator trying to break the land speed record in the grass is
something I'm still working on.

Tom

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wrote in message
ups.com...
|I wholeheartedly agree that there was a problem this year
on the
| perimeter road around the north 40. I am one of the
volunteers out on
| the Flight line for general aviation parking and camping
and noticed
| cars going 45 (!) on the road around 9-27 with people
everywhere.
|
| Totally unacceptable. I brought it up with the powers that
be, and the
| police/security were going to patrol on a more frequent
basis. The last
| thing anyone wants is to survive the Green/Rush lake
holds, and then
| Fisk, only to be clocked by a car on the flight line!!!
|
| Those of us in Flight Line Operations around 9-27 were
making a
| conscious effort to be good, but we spend most of our time
on the grass
| and hard surface taxiways anyway, out of everyones way in
cars.
|
| I agree there was a problem. There seems to be a
significant increase
| in the number of cars on the field in the last few years.
| Anybody from EAA should give way to a pedestrian
regardless, but there
| are people from every organization under the sun on the
field, and
| regulating them is impossible, except to enforce the 15mph
speed limit
| by the police and security.
|
| I hope that it doesn't take a tragedy to help fix the
problem.
| We are better than that.
|
| Ryan Wubben
| Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations
|