Weight-based User Fee Might Incentivize Smaller Planes

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
: ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
: available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in most
: cases it is forced upon general aviation.
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: James H. Macklin
: ATP,CFI,A&P
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A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...

The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans, the FAA
radar is used to detect and vector traffic within the
boarders. If there is a national emergency [say nuclear
war] the FAA centers will stay in operation for the military
and all other airplanes will be grounded. The
communications system was built to do this and survive a
nuke attack. To justify the costs, it was used to control
more and more general aviation aircraft by the simple tool,
restrict more airspace to aircraft that don't participate.

It isn't all bad or a waste, but a lot of the expense of
owning an airplane is transponders, ELTs [a Congressman's
plane was lost in Colorado and Congress passed a law, not
the FAA], positive control [Class A and B], encoders above
10,000, everything is small potatoes to the government, but
it costs a lot of money to comply with all the rules and
then to maintain the equipment.


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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:Gq1zg.84634$ZW3.44653@dukeread04...
| : ATC exists because it is a military service, it is just
| : available to the few thousand airline aircraft and in
most
| : cases it is forced upon general aviation.
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| :
| : --
| : James H. Macklin
| : ATP,CFI,A&P
| :
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| A bit like NASA and the space shuttle...
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In article 0Z2zg.84638$ZW3.70789@dukeread04,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans,

That's the long range air defense radars.

The USAF operates a number of RAPCONs with terminal
radars


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Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

True, generally in areas not served by airlines at the time
the facility was built. Military radar is mostly used for
continental defense, with some ATC functions, as you fly
through their airspace, FAA TC will hand you off.

But the entire FAA ATC system is part of the national
defense, just as the Interstate Highway system was created
by Ike as the National Defense Highway System.



"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article 0Z2zg.84638$ZW3.70789@dukeread04,
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
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| The Air Force radar is aimed out over the oceans,
|
| That's the long range air defense radars.
|
| The USAF operates a number of RAPCONs with terminal
| radars
|
|
| |
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|

In article um5zg.84646$ZW3.18301@dukeread04,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

True, generally in areas not served by airlines at the time
the facility was built. Military radar is mostly used for
continental defense, with some ATC functions, as you fly
through their airspace, FAA TC will hand you off.

actually some of the military radars are exactly the same
as radars used by the FAA. In fact, the DASR is the
DoD name for the new ASR-11. The DoD is buying some
and the FAA is buying some (albeit way more than the DoD).

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Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:um5zg.84646$ZW3.18301@dukeread04...
True, generally in areas not served by airlines at the time
the facility was built. Military radar is mostly used for
continental defense, with some ATC functions, as you fly
through their airspace, FAA TC will hand you off.


Quite so!

Rapid City's approach control is handled by Ellsworth AFB on the north side
of town.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)