23 July OSH accident audio

Jose,

So pilots can evaluate their bag of alternate plans with an eye to which
would be more appropriate.


Ok, let's assume the controller knows there's an accident AND they have the
time and free mind capacity to say it on the frequency. Then what? For that
info to be useful, you'd have to know how long it's going to take to clear
up. I'd wager the controllers did not know that.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Ok, let's assume the controller knows there's an accident AND they have the
time and free mind capacity to say it on the frequency. Then what? For that
info to be useful, you'd have to know how long it's going to take to clear
up. I'd wager the controllers did not know that.

No, but now the pilots, knowing more than before, can make their own
evalutions.

Jose
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Jose,

No, but now the pilots, knowing more than before, can make their own
evalutions.


How? What changes in your evaluation from "hold there" to "hold there
because of an accident"?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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How? What changes in your evaluation from "hold there" to "hold there
because of an accident"?


"Hold there because of an accident" provides an idea of how long the delay
will be, "hold there" does not.

Steven,

"Hold there because of an accident" provides an idea of how long the delay
will be


How long will it be? I seriously want to know.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

How long will it be? I seriously want to know.

Minimum for a collapsed gear, 30 minutes, fatal acciden t60 - 90 minutes,
would be close.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans,

Minimum for a collapsed gear, 30 minutes, fatal acciden t60 - 90 minutes,
would be close.


So if a controller says "delay due to accident", you have a 300 percent
error margin, with 30 minutes probably being sensible to wait out and 90
minutes being a little on the long side. I wouldn't know what to do with
that information, but, well, that's just me.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Steven,

"Hold there because of an accident" provides an idea of how long the
delay
will be


How long will it be? I seriously want to know.


One hour minimum.

And I choose to take that 1 to 3 hour wait back at Portage, where I can have
a couple of more morning brats, listen to 120.7 for the chatter to start
back up, fill up the tanks, and relax.

As for not announcing that the incident/accident was fatal, not a problem.
Simply say "accident" and be done with it. Now we know it isn't airport
overload.

Oshkosh and "gottagetthere" don't belong in the same sentence.

Jim



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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One hour minimum.

How? What changes in your evaluation from "hold there" to "hold there
because of an accident"?

Each pilot will make their own determination. What changes in =my= view
is that after an accident, there would likely be cleanup and
investigation, and the runway may be closed for a long time. I would
probably choose to divert if a circuit or two doesn't clear it up.
Other reasons for holds are more ephemeral.

It is true, I could make the wrong decision, but it would be =my=
decision. I value that.

Jose
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