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JJS wrote:
"Richard Riley" wrote in message oups.com...

RST Engineering wrote:
Somebody set me up. I plead innocent, though. Jim Riley brought some
home made apple brandy. I'd had a couple of hits of that and so that's my
excuse and I'm sticking to it. The food was great and the companionship
was better.

Son, that's called "Muzzleloader" and you'd better get used to it. Normally
it is peach or blackberry, but it lurks in various fruit varieties. I'd
plead "no contest with an explanation, your Honor."

No, it's not. It's Falling Block. Chuck and I were going to have a
taste-off, but he got scared at the last minute and didn't show.


Sorry for the name mistake Richard. I can't remember names even when I'm sober.

Joe Schneider

No problem. Jim was my dad's name, he was there in spirit.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:29:48 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:36:07 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, B A R R Y said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "JJS" jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net said:
bottle opener for years and years. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that
Europe is still bass ackwards, even when it
comes to beer drinking.

Yeah, those backwards Europeans still believe beer should have flavour,
not just cold bubbles.

American and Canadian brewers currently make some of the most
outstanding brews in the world. Many of these fine products can even be
had at the corner supermarket, no extra work is required to find them.
The belief that American beer is trash is at least 15 years out of date.

The problem is that the trash beers are still the biggest sellers and the
most heavily advertised. I wouldn't drink Coors or Bud on a bet, but I
bet individually they outsell all those good beers you mentioned put
together.

I'm just saying you can't call Eurpoe backwards when it comes to beer
drinking when they've been producing good beer for centuries and America
has been doing it for "at least 15 years".

Besides, the best beer comes with a ceramic stopper, not a twist-off.

Good point. I always cringe when Anheuser-Busch claims it brews
the "world's best selling beer".

I believe that honor belongs to Paulaner (if it doesn't, it certainly
should....).

I have a hunch Guinness outbrews them all.

But as long as we're this far OT, what's driving US microbrews toward
mediocracy? It used to be they were distinguishable, now they all
taste the same. Twenty years ago, Redhook's Ballard Bitter IPA used
to taste like a real English best bitter. Now it tastes like every
other American IPA. Thirty years ago, popping the cap on an Anchor
Steam produced an aroma reminiscent of McSorley's draft. Now it's
just a heavy yellow beer. And God help us all, while the last time I
was actually in McSorley's was '94, and at that time, the ale still
tasted and smelled the same as it did when I was in college in the
'60s. But evil is afoot. Last May, I was in NJ and I bought a 6-pack
with McSorley's labels on it at a package store, and the brew inside
was just generic hoppy malty stuff. If they've done that to the to
the ale on tap down on 7th street (which was never great beer, but it
was unique at a time when the most interesting brew to be had was
Ballantine Ale), I swear I'm going to save my beer money for flying.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:
Last May, I was in NJ and I bought a 6-pack
with McSorley's labels on it at a package store, and the brew inside
was just generic hoppy malty stuff. If they've done that to the to
the ale on tap down on 7th street (which was never great beer, but it
was unique at a time when the most interesting brew to be had was
Ballantine Ale), I swear I'm going to save my beer money for flying.


I agree it's different stuff. My only guess is that the bottles come
from a different contract brewer than the 7th street tap stuff. The 6
pack should come with the cheese / onion platter! G

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:36:54 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote:

Don Tuite wrote:
Last May, I was in NJ and I bought a 6-pack
with McSorley's labels on it at a package store, and the brew inside
was just generic hoppy malty stuff. If they've done that to the to
the ale on tap down on 7th street (which was never great beer, but it
was unique at a time when the most interesting brew to be had was
Ballantine Ale), I swear I'm going to save my beer money for flying.


I agree it's different stuff. My only guess is that the bottles come
from a different contract brewer than the 7th street tap stuff. The 6
pack should come with the cheese / onion platter! G

Then tradition lives? My faith is restored.

Don

I believe it's not legal for home brewers to sell beer. Even home
brewing itself is not legal in all states, though the laws aren't
really enforced. Maybe you meant "micro brewing."

B A R R Y wrote:

Once
home brewing and then the selling of home brews became legal, things
moved right back up! G

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:20:30 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote:
American and Canadian brewers currently make some of the most
outstanding brews in the world.

I stumbled across a beer a couple of years ago when I was working on a
DoD contract in New Orleans... Abita TurboDog... Very dark and full
flavor... I would put it at the level of Guinness and Mackesons...

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:56:07 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote:
bottles with caps to screw open can cleary be differntiated by feel (in our
neck of the woods; but only when not drunk *g*). Here I've never come
across a bottle with a cap working (opening) like Budweiser bottles do, but
I like the way it works.

I liked the way that the Coors cans worked where you had two circular
impressions that you pushed on and it opened a drinking hole and an
air hole... It was kind of a simplistic Darwinism in action
considering the number of people who cut their fingers or thumbs
opening them... The proper techniquie was to use a knuckle...

RomeoMike wrote:
I believe it's not legal for home brewers to sell beer. Even home
brewing itself is not legal in all states, though the laws aren't
really enforced. Maybe you meant "micro brewing."


Nope.

Some great home brewers became professional microbrewers. G Home
brewing allowed interest and skills to grow.

Federal law says you can brew for personal use in any state:
http://www.beertown.org/statutes/usa.htm

Home brewers who became micro brewers can sell their micro brew.
Home brewers cannot sell their home brew. Their is a difference. I am a
home brewer. I cannot legally sell my brew. I can start a micro brewery
by complying with all state and federal laws governing a business in
general and a beer making business in particular and start selling my
beer, but I still can't sell my home brew.

Federal law allows home brewing, but not all states allow it. It's not
the only example of state laws being more restrictive than federal law.
It's against the law in my state to home brew, but there are home brew
supply stores in the state. So states generally leave it alone, though
it's illegal.

B A R R Y wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:
I believe it's not legal for home brewers to sell beer. Even home
brewing itself is not legal in all states, though the laws aren't
really enforced. Maybe you meant "micro brewing."


Nope.

Some great home brewers became professional microbrewers. G Home
brewing allowed interest and skills to grow.

Federal law says you can brew for personal use in any state:
http://www.beertown.org/statutes/usa.htm

I need to add that not all states make home brewing illegal.

RomeoMike wrote:
Home brewers who became micro brewers can sell their micro brew.
Home brewers cannot sell their home brew. Their is a difference. I am a
home brewer. I cannot legally sell my brew. I can start a micro brewery
by complying with all state and federal laws governing a business in
general and a beer making business in particular and start selling my
beer, but I still can't sell my home brew.

Federal law allows home brewing, but not all states allow it. It's not
the only example of state laws being more restrictive than federal law.
It's against the law in my state to home brew, but there are home brew
supply stores in the state. So states generally leave it alone, though
it's illegal.

B A R R Y wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:
I believe it's not legal for home brewers to sell beer. Even home
brewing itself is not legal in all states, though the laws aren't
really enforced. Maybe you meant "micro brewing."


Nope.

Some great home brewers became professional microbrewers. G Home
brewing allowed interest and skills to grow.

Federal law says you can brew for personal use in any state:
http://www.beertown.org/statutes/usa.htm