23 July OSH accident audio

"john smith" wrote in message
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In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:

As for not announcing that the incident/accident was fatal, not a
problem.
Simply say "accident" and be done with it. Now we know it isn't airport
overload.


FISKE Controllers: "Oshkosh Airport is closed. Any aircraft inbound on
the RIPON Arrival Procedure are instructed to land at another airport
until the Oshkosh Airport reopens. Any aircraft proceeding beyond FISKE
will not be allowed to land at Oshkosh."

I disagree with this one. If you don't go to another airport, you are
disobeying a direct order from ATC. I prefer to give the pilot the option
of the Rush Lake hold, the Green Lake hold, or diversion at the pilot's
option. All questions of the nature "how long will the hold be" are
answered the same way, "the hold is indefinite ... there has been an
accident at Oshkosh airport."

THe procedure is Fisk, not FISKE.

And I'd have Fisk ask the first ten or twenty aircraft in the ensuing open
field lineup to say words on the aircraft's radio that the field is open.
THat way those who have diverted and are listening on a handheld below the
ATIS line of sight will have a clue that the airport has reopened. Line of
sight (radio horizon) for an aircraft at 1000 AGL is about 45 miles.

Jim

Jim

In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:

I disagree with this one. If you don't go to another airport, you are
disobeying a direct order from ATC. I prefer to give the pilot the option
of the Rush Lake hold, the Green Lake hold, or diversion at the pilot's
option. All questions of the nature "how long will the hold be" are
answered the same way, "the hold is indefinite ... there has been an
accident at Oshkosh airport."

Good catch, Jim. I think there should be something to dissuade people
from holding, though. It leads to the problems we witnessed this year
and creates a false impression that the airport will be opening soon.